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		<title>By: Stephen Rider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Phil is quite right about CamelCase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Phil is quite right about CamelCase.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Rider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to mention the music-playing toothbrush, but others have beat me to it.

Regarding the treadmill, however -- I was a YMCA member back in the mid 90s, and in their gym they has stationary bikes with big video screens.  You pedaled and steered, and moved around in a virtual world.  It wasn&#039;t a game, per se -- there were no puzzles to solve and so forth -- just a big environment you could bike around in and explore.  You could even go underwater and see sunken ships and the like.  (Of course, this was computer graphics circa 1992-3, so a bit blocky by today&#039;s standards....)

Oh yes, I almost forgot.  You and I have the same model toothbrush. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to mention the music-playing toothbrush, but others have beat me to it.</p>
<p>Regarding the treadmill, however &#8212; I was a YMCA member back in the mid 90s, and in their gym they has stationary bikes with big video screens.  You pedaled and steered, and moved around in a virtual world.  It wasn&#8217;t a game, per se &#8212; there were no puzzles to solve and so forth &#8212; just a big environment you could bike around in and explore.  You could even go underwater and see sunken ships and the like.  (Of course, this was computer graphics circa 1992-3, so a bit blocky by today&#8217;s standards&#8230;.)</p>
<p>Oh yes, I almost forgot.  You and I have the same model toothbrush. <img src='http://www.stephenfry.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob_Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget how patents prevent good ideas from getting around. Quicktime could have been the OneAndOnly format, but Apple encumbered it with copyright and patent. They want _control_.

The best toothbrush I ever used was by a company called &quot;Pro-Dentec&quot;, their &quot;Rotadent&quot;. It doesn&#039;t just go back and forth, it rotates the brush entirely around. The cleaning is fantastic, but (like Quicktime) it&#039;s expensive and encumbered with patents and copyrights. They want the monopoly profits they get by keeping _control_.

One reason I love the Creative Commons, the GPL, is that the best ideas get used and built on by many people. Quality improves at lightning speeds compared to &quot;traditional&quot; industries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget how patents prevent good ideas from getting around. Quicktime could have been the OneAndOnly format, but Apple encumbered it with copyright and patent. They want _control_.</p>
<p>The best toothbrush I ever used was by a company called &#8220;Pro-Dentec&#8221;, their &#8220;Rotadent&#8221;. It doesn&#8217;t just go back and forth, it rotates the brush entirely around. The cleaning is fantastic, but (like Quicktime) it&#8217;s expensive and encumbered with patents and copyrights. They want the monopoly profits they get by keeping _control_.</p>
<p>One reason I love the Creative Commons, the GPL, is that the best ideas get used and built on by many people. Quality improves at lightning speeds compared to &#8220;traditional&#8221; industries.</p>
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		<title>By: search and rescue dog training programs</title>
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		<dc:creator>search and rescue dog training programs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 07:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;search and rescue dog training programs...&lt;/strong&gt;

you are exactly right and there is nothing wrong with it....</description>
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<p>you are exactly right and there is nothing wrong with it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: PhilRogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhilRogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Quote:  &quot;(phrases compressed with UpperCaseLetters such as this are DeRigueur for todayâ€™s sad MarketingPerson)&quot;

This has come from computer programmers, such as myself.  When we create a variable name in a program, we&#039;re generally not allowed spaces.  Consequently, we invented this method of making multi-word names.  The use of UpperCaseLetters makes it easier to read, and avoids ambiguity.

And you might find it QuiteInteresting to know that we call it CamelCase because the words have &quot;humps&quot; in them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Quote:  &#8220;(phrases compressed with UpperCaseLetters such as this are DeRigueur for todayâ€™s sad MarketingPerson)&#8221;</p>
<p>This has come from computer programmers, such as myself.  When we create a variable name in a program, we&#8217;re generally not allowed spaces.  Consequently, we invented this method of making multi-word names.  The use of UpperCaseLetters makes it easier to read, and avoids ambiguity.</p>
<p>And you might find it QuiteInteresting to know that we call it CamelCase because the words have &#8220;humps&#8221; in them.</p>
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		<title>By: MessyBlob</title>
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		<dc:creator>MessyBlob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s a shame that anything connected with beauty and personal hygiene has to be tarnished with marketing strategies that would be more at home with witch doctors and other elemental mystic magics. However, we are occasionally reassured by well-crafted scientific numbers that have no units in the SI system, e.g. &quot;eyelashes are 74.5% curlier!&quot;

My point is that most products are simple at heart. It takes multi-coloured moulded plastics, emotional branding, excessive packaging, and tenuous marketing: all to make us feel that we&#039;re buying something special. I&#039;d consider the toothbrush bits to be heavily-marketed &#039;valueless-adding&#039;. I keenly await its inclusion in a 2015 TV production entitled, &quot;100 Most Pointless Gadgets&quot;.

This post was brought to you from the 96-point multi-tactile linguistic expression device, capable of solving all the world&#039;s problems in five minutes*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a shame that anything connected with beauty and personal hygiene has to be tarnished with marketing strategies that would be more at home with witch doctors and other elemental mystic magics. However, we are occasionally reassured by well-crafted scientific numbers that have no units in the SI system, e.g. &#8220;eyelashes are 74.5% curlier!&#8221;</p>
<p>My point is that most products are simple at heart. It takes multi-coloured moulded plastics, emotional branding, excessive packaging, and tenuous marketing: all to make us feel that we&#8217;re buying something special. I&#8217;d consider the toothbrush bits to be heavily-marketed &#8216;valueless-adding&#8217;. I keenly await its inclusion in a 2015 TV production entitled, &#8220;100 Most Pointless Gadgets&#8221;.</p>
<p>This post was brought to you from the 96-point multi-tactile linguistic expression device, capable of solving all the world&#8217;s problems in five minutes*.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s a little late for the discussion - but just wanted to throw in my two-penneth...

It&#039;ll never happen. Standardisation of a media codec for HTML5 that is. 

In the same way as a Colgate professional electric toothbrush uses an incompatible charger from the Oral-B one described (if they all simply used the same charging stations maybe we&#039;d end up with less plastic being wasted).

Or how about laptops which all use the exact same voltage and amps with the exact same connectors?

Cars that used the same parts?

Human beings that are completely predictable?

It&#039;ll never happen.

Working within the media codecs for streaming area [ahem], it is a field which has never been standardised. It&#039;s as much a fault of the companies that have invented different ways of compressing and delivering these files, as it is for us allowing them to do so. A very topical example would be - why doesn&#039;t iPhone/iPod Touch natively support Flash Video?

The latest incarnation of Flash Video supports h.264. Quicktime supports h.264. Erm - so to the normal person you&#039;d think h.264 = h.264

Well, you are correct - at least at the codec level - once you actually get into how the video is delivered over a network, you discover that Adobe (Macromedia) has created it&#039;s own proprietary transport protocol (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Messaging_Protocol&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RTMP&lt;/a&gt;) which they *will not* publish, as it&#039;s part of their &#039;content protection&#039; solution for content owners.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/08/what-just-happened-to-video-on-web_20.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A lot of people got very excited&lt;/a&gt; about the fact that Flash was going to support some MPEG standards - but they really screwed everyone when they decided that full streaming would require their proprietary, and not yet fully tested or released, streaming servers.

So a Flash Video h.264 stream will not currently playback in a Quicktime player. Or at least without adding licensed support for RTMP.

Remember when RealNetworks brought out their original media codecs? Until they fell fowl of the &#039;proprietary&#039; bug, though later they somewhat successfully (certainly from a B2B viewpoint) formed Helix a community supported framework that is used in many embedded devices - like mobile phones. Helix embraces standards too, and it has support for Real&#039;s proprietary codecs if you really have to.

So - consider Ogg. The codec might be open source, but the delivery method seems less clear.

Dirac - streaming? It&#039;s too proprietary. See - Sony&#039;s ATRAC3 codec.

Now, who&#039;s for a discussion about the benefits of Betamax over VHS? Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s a little late for the discussion &#8211; but just wanted to throw in my two-penneth&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll never happen. Standardisation of a media codec for HTML5 that is. </p>
<p>In the same way as a Colgate professional electric toothbrush uses an incompatible charger from the Oral-B one described (if they all simply used the same charging stations maybe we&#8217;d end up with less plastic being wasted).</p>
<p>Or how about laptops which all use the exact same voltage and amps with the exact same connectors?</p>
<p>Cars that used the same parts?</p>
<p>Human beings that are completely predictable?</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll never happen.</p>
<p>Working within the media codecs for streaming area [ahem], it is a field which has never been standardised. It&#8217;s as much a fault of the companies that have invented different ways of compressing and delivering these files, as it is for us allowing them to do so. A very topical example would be &#8211; why doesn&#8217;t iPhone/iPod Touch natively support Flash Video?</p>
<p>The latest incarnation of Flash Video supports h.264. Quicktime supports h.264. Erm &#8211; so to the normal person you&#8217;d think h.264 = h.264</p>
<p>Well, you are correct &#8211; at least at the codec level &#8211; once you actually get into how the video is delivered over a network, you discover that Adobe (Macromedia) has created it&#8217;s own proprietary transport protocol (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Messaging_Protocol" rel="nofollow">RTMP</a>) which they *will not* publish, as it&#8217;s part of their &#8216;content protection&#8217; solution for content owners.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/08/what-just-happened-to-video-on-web_20.html" rel="nofollow">A lot of people got very excited</a> about the fact that Flash was going to support some MPEG standards &#8211; but they really screwed everyone when they decided that full streaming would require their proprietary, and not yet fully tested or released, streaming servers.</p>
<p>So a Flash Video h.264 stream will not currently playback in a Quicktime player. Or at least without adding licensed support for RTMP.</p>
<p>Remember when RealNetworks brought out their original media codecs? Until they fell fowl of the &#8216;proprietary&#8217; bug, though later they somewhat successfully (certainly from a B2B viewpoint) formed Helix a community supported framework that is used in many embedded devices &#8211; like mobile phones. Helix embraces standards too, and it has support for Real&#8217;s proprietary codecs if you really have to.</p>
<p>So &#8211; consider Ogg. The codec might be open source, but the delivery method seems less clear.</p>
<p>Dirac &#8211; streaming? It&#8217;s too proprietary. See &#8211; Sony&#8217;s ATRAC3 codec.</p>
<p>Now, who&#8217;s for a discussion about the benefits of Betamax over VHS? Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: JulesLt</title>
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		<dc:creator>JulesLt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sergei - HTML5 started as a non-W3C spec - basically the W3C wanted to go with XHTML, whereas there was significant interest in just extending HTML, rather than starting again from scratch. The WHAT-WG was also working faster than the W3C for a lot of reasons that are documented on the web. Ironically, they seem to me to be quite similar to the reasons that led to XML being created by people frustrated with the slow-moving heavy SGML spec.

I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of what you are saying though - the IMG tag simply specifies &#039;here is an image&#039; and as far as I can see the spec does not say that JPG or PNG images must be supported. 

And we don&#039;t yet know what MS would have done if Vorbis or Theora support was defined in the spec. It could have been the clause that torpedoed the spec, while removing it moves that battle to another day. Given that they took no part in the early stages of WHAT-WG and HTML-5 it&#039;s still uncertain what their attitude is.

Going back to Mr.Fry&#039;s original blog - I would like to say that the developer community was not uniformly up in arms, only a small, vocal, but important and influential part. For the vast majority of web developers and designers, the ability to create an inline movie player in a web page, with custom playback controls and CSS styling, without having to use Flash, will be a huge advantage. As will being able to use a URL to link directly to 4&#039;33 in the middle of a long video. (In fact, as we know, the vast majority of developers out there were happiest when IE6 was at the peak of it&#039;s dominance and that entitled them to ignore all else).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sergei &#8211; HTML5 started as a non-W3C spec &#8211; basically the W3C wanted to go with XHTML, whereas there was significant interest in just extending HTML, rather than starting again from scratch. The WHAT-WG was also working faster than the W3C for a lot of reasons that are documented on the web. Ironically, they seem to me to be quite similar to the reasons that led to XML being created by people frustrated with the slow-moving heavy SGML spec.</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of what you are saying though &#8211; the IMG tag simply specifies &#8216;here is an image&#8217; and as far as I can see the spec does not say that JPG or PNG images must be supported. </p>
<p>And we don&#8217;t yet know what MS would have done if Vorbis or Theora support was defined in the spec. It could have been the clause that torpedoed the spec, while removing it moves that battle to another day. Given that they took no part in the early stages of WHAT-WG and HTML-5 it&#8217;s still uncertain what their attitude is.</p>
<p>Going back to Mr.Fry&#8217;s original blog &#8211; I would like to say that the developer community was not uniformly up in arms, only a small, vocal, but important and influential part. For the vast majority of web developers and designers, the ability to create an inline movie player in a web page, with custom playback controls and CSS styling, without having to use Flash, will be a huge advantage. As will being able to use a URL to link directly to 4&#8242;33 in the middle of a long video. (In fact, as we know, the vast majority of developers out there were happiest when IE6 was at the peak of it&#8217;s dominance and that entitled them to ignore all else).</p>
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		<title>By: enidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>enidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said, &quot;I want a treadmill that presents on screen a reality game that interacts with your exercise: an adventure in which you chase villains, rescue damsels or solve puzzles.&quot;

Enidd says, &quot;Oh, so do I. Exercise without intellectual stimulation is more tedious than a four-hour-long Christmas special. I searched long and hard for the augmented treadmill beast on the Interweb (almost a quest in itself, but without the longed for benefit to the upper thighs). After days of hunting, I discovered this - http://www.fpgamerunner.com/index.html - and thought I had defeated the end-of-level boss in single combat. Sadly, it was not the case - the FPGameRunner seems to be just vapourware and my emails have gone unanswered.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said, &#8220;I want a treadmill that presents on screen a reality game that interacts with your exercise: an adventure in which you chase villains, rescue damsels or solve puzzles.&#8221;</p>
<p>Enidd says, &#8220;Oh, so do I. Exercise without intellectual stimulation is more tedious than a four-hour-long Christmas special. I searched long and hard for the augmented treadmill beast on the Interweb (almost a quest in itself, but without the longed for benefit to the upper thighs). After days of hunting, I discovered this &#8211; <a href="http://www.fpgamerunner.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fpgamerunner.com/index.html</a> &#8211; and thought I had defeated the end-of-level boss in single combat. Sadly, it was not the case &#8211; the FPGameRunner seems to be just vapourware and my emails have gone unanswered.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Yoru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, the theme has developed in what discussion. Has learned a lot of new. Thanks to all :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, the theme has developed in what discussion. Has learned a lot of new. Thanks to all <img src='http://www.stephenfry.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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