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		<title>By: Open Source &#124; Fetler's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/02/01/deliver-us-from-microsoft/comment-page-5/#comment-15515</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Source &#124; Fetler's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was spurred to write this blogpost after reading Stephen Fry&#8217;s take on the open source movement last year, so I thought I&#8217;d add my own take on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nonoyesyes</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/02/01/deliver-us-from-microsoft/comment-page-5/#comment-14679</link>
		<dc:creator>nonoyesyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top&#039;O the marnin to ya!
 I thought the entire article and all the replies a very worthy read... 
And at 3.30am with a sudden rude awakening [due to Sydney&#039;s unfairly HOT weather at the moment] it was timely to be able to come on over and pull up a chair and begin studying this very interesting news...
I&#039;ve downloaded and played around with  Firefox (Mozella),  Avant, Internet Explorer 8 (and then deleted it and returned to IE7), Google Chrome (and then deleted it) and finally went back to the usual.
Sometimes, computers and me, we just don&#039;t get along!
I want `instant&#039; and I get long, tedious lags..... Enough to turn you grey while you wait.... and wait....!
So, I thought the article was most interesting indeed...
Thanks for sharing!
[I would say &#039;goodnight&#039; but I fear the heat and humidity will keep me wide awake for some time to come]
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top&#8217;O the marnin to ya!<br />
 I thought the entire article and all the replies a very worthy read&#8230;<br />
And at 3.30am with a sudden rude awakening [due to Sydney's unfairly HOT weather at the moment] it was timely to be able to come on over and pull up a chair and begin studying this very interesting news&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve downloaded and played around with  Firefox (Mozella),  Avant, Internet Explorer 8 (and then deleted it and returned to IE7), Google Chrome (and then deleted it) and finally went back to the usual.<br />
Sometimes, computers and me, we just don&#8217;t get along!<br />
I want `instant&#8217; and I get long, tedious lags&#8230;.. Enough to turn you grey while you wait&#8230;. and wait&#8230;.!<br />
So, I thought the article was most interesting indeed&#8230;<br />
Thanks for sharing!<br />
[I would say 'goodnight' but I fear the heat and humidity will keep me wide awake for some time to come]<br />
Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: JARM_Amusements</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/02/01/deliver-us-from-microsoft/comment-page-5/#comment-14661</link>
		<dc:creator>JARM_Amusements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think at teh end of the day, peoples choice of operating system will come down to which one is actually &quot;the best&quot;. Betamax video recorders were considered to be technically superior to VHS and we all know who won that battle. People will choose operating system on various factors such as affordability, familiarity, convenience and open source software has a heck of a way to go to catch up with windows on anything but affordability.

Dislike it as you will, but most people are familiar with windows, they use it at work, in schools even on a range of smartphones and pda&#039;s, I have just bought my 10 year old daughter a laptop and it came preinstalled with Vista, which she is quite happy to use as both my desktops run it and the PC&#039;s she is learning on at school all run XP so this system is one she can use straight out of the box.

Linux for all its potential isn&#039;t going to supplant Windows until our kids begin learning on it at school and our employers decide to switch to it at work. The one advantage of Linux is price, but microsoft can always cut prices to the bone, and sheer sales volumes will keep it in profit. 

Then again I could be wrong, and Lord Lucan could come riding down Kensington high street brandishing his new Sinclair PC with Linux preinstalled!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think at teh end of the day, peoples choice of operating system will come down to which one is actually &#8220;the best&#8221;. Betamax video recorders were considered to be technically superior to VHS and we all know who won that battle. People will choose operating system on various factors such as affordability, familiarity, convenience and open source software has a heck of a way to go to catch up with windows on anything but affordability.</p>
<p>Dislike it as you will, but most people are familiar with windows, they use it at work, in schools even on a range of smartphones and pda&#8217;s, I have just bought my 10 year old daughter a laptop and it came preinstalled with Vista, which she is quite happy to use as both my desktops run it and the PC&#8217;s she is learning on at school all run XP so this system is one she can use straight out of the box.</p>
<p>Linux for all its potential isn&#8217;t going to supplant Windows until our kids begin learning on it at school and our employers decide to switch to it at work. The one advantage of Linux is price, but microsoft can always cut prices to the bone, and sheer sales volumes will keep it in profit. </p>
<p>Then again I could be wrong, and Lord Lucan could come riding down Kensington high street brandishing his new Sinclair PC with Linux preinstalled!</p>
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		<title>By: Very Low-Wattage Desktop Computers: Green, Cheap, and Silent &#8212; Wild Bee</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/02/01/deliver-us-from-microsoft/comment-page-5/#comment-13943</link>
		<dc:creator>Very Low-Wattage Desktop Computers: Green, Cheap, and Silent &#8212; Wild Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one famous tall person, Stephen Fry, whose hands are presumably large if not Brobdingnagian, has publicly announced his delight with his Asus EEE PC. Those of us with weak eyes and stubbornly unretrainable fingers, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GeoffWilson</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/02/01/deliver-us-from-microsoft/comment-page-5/#comment-13554</link>
		<dc:creator>GeoffWilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next five years?

I disagree, for a few reasons. Firstly, Linux still has serious problems in terms of user friendliness. I love it, but I&#039;m a geek. Secondly, Windows has a huge advantage in DirectX, which is one of the things Microsoft has gotten right - if you exclude DX10( which actually is pretty nice, but more of a bridge between 9 and 11 than anything substantial - certainly very little the end-user would notice ). Especially since OpenGL3 has been introduced to as much public loathing as the Millenium Dome. I know die hard OpenGL programmers who have installed Windows, in spite of their hatred for it, as a dual-boot for when OpenGL3 kicks in purely so they can use DirectX instead. That&#039;s how big a problem alternative systems have with OpenGL right now. This combined with the fact that for a mere 60 quid MS will provide you with an API to write games for your 360 console, which even as an avid hater of the .NET platform I must concede is exceptionally nice( and curiously easy ) to play around with.

This doesn&#039;t mean much to the average home user, sure. But lots of people play games and Windows is vastly more viable a gaming platform than any Unix/OGL variant.

I also kind of disagree with the OS rants of the MAC users here. Apple operating systems are hugely proprietary. The only really OS systems are linux based - which again, brings a user friendly issue - they are so OS that they refuse to include proprietary drivers for hardware( ATI/NVIDIA chipsets being the most notable ). This also ties into gaming again. Basically, any fledgling newbie has to find their graphics driver and install it manually - this isn&#039;t as hard as it used to be, but it&#039;s still not as simple as running a file and clicking &quot;next&quot; a few times.

I guess my opinion is pretty much. I love using Unix based systems. But I very much prefer the DirectX API to the straggling mess that is OpenGL2 and with the current temperature surrounding OpenGL3 I suspect that, at the very least, indie/basement OS graphics applications are going to become more prevalant on Windows systems.

The rest is really down to choice. You don&#039;t have to install Microsoft Office, or any other closed source software. The internet is full of open-source Windows applications. The difference is in distribution I think. Most Linux variants have in-built distribution systems and package managers - Windows does not.</description>
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<p>I disagree, for a few reasons. Firstly, Linux still has serious problems in terms of user friendliness. I love it, but I&#8217;m a geek. Secondly, Windows has a huge advantage in DirectX, which is one of the things Microsoft has gotten right &#8211; if you exclude DX10( which actually is pretty nice, but more of a bridge between 9 and 11 than anything substantial &#8211; certainly very little the end-user would notice ). Especially since OpenGL3 has been introduced to as much public loathing as the Millenium Dome. I know die hard OpenGL programmers who have installed Windows, in spite of their hatred for it, as a dual-boot for when OpenGL3 kicks in purely so they can use DirectX instead. That&#8217;s how big a problem alternative systems have with OpenGL right now. This combined with the fact that for a mere 60 quid MS will provide you with an API to write games for your 360 console, which even as an avid hater of the .NET platform I must concede is exceptionally nice( and curiously easy ) to play around with.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean much to the average home user, sure. But lots of people play games and Windows is vastly more viable a gaming platform than any Unix/OGL variant.</p>
<p>I also kind of disagree with the OS rants of the MAC users here. Apple operating systems are hugely proprietary. The only really OS systems are linux based &#8211; which again, brings a user friendly issue &#8211; they are so OS that they refuse to include proprietary drivers for hardware( ATI/NVIDIA chipsets being the most notable ). This also ties into gaming again. Basically, any fledgling newbie has to find their graphics driver and install it manually &#8211; this isn&#8217;t as hard as it used to be, but it&#8217;s still not as simple as running a file and clicking &#8220;next&#8221; a few times.</p>
<p>I guess my opinion is pretty much. I love using Unix based systems. But I very much prefer the DirectX API to the straggling mess that is OpenGL2 and with the current temperature surrounding OpenGL3 I suspect that, at the very least, indie/basement OS graphics applications are going to become more prevalant on Windows systems.</p>
<p>The rest is really down to choice. You don&#8217;t have to install Microsoft Office, or any other closed source software. The internet is full of open-source Windows applications. The difference is in distribution I think. Most Linux variants have in-built distribution systems and package managers &#8211; Windows does not.</p>
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		<title>By: mictester</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/02/01/deliver-us-from-microsoft/comment-page-5/#comment-13520</link>
		<dc:creator>mictester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really funny how the &quot;software engineer&quot; vested interests try to suggest that GNU/Linux will never supplant the Microsoft rubbish.  These people make copious amounts of money trying to repair and patch Microsoft&#039;s appallingly broken rubbish-ware.

Microsoft have no viable product, and are unlikely to have in the next few years.  &quot;Vista&quot; is just a re-spin of XP with added eye-candy and DRM.  It STILL uses the fundamentally broken NT kernel that was thrown together to &quot;get something working&quot; in 1991.

&quot;Windows 7&quot; - their next attempt at world domination - is just vapourware at the moment.  MS are in such dire need of real programmers that they are BUYING IN a kernel.  No doubt &quot;Windows 7&quot; will be outrageously expensive, require more hardware than anyone actually has (much to the continued delight of the hardware manufacturers), and still have all the restrictions and problems fundamental to MS&#039; closed-source rubbish.

It&#039;s good to see prominent people promoting FOSS.  It&#039;s not going to take long to persuade the thinking public that they shouldn&#039;t squander their money with MS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really funny how the &#8220;software engineer&#8221; vested interests try to suggest that GNU/Linux will never supplant the Microsoft rubbish.  These people make copious amounts of money trying to repair and patch Microsoft&#8217;s appallingly broken rubbish-ware.</p>
<p>Microsoft have no viable product, and are unlikely to have in the next few years.  &#8220;Vista&#8221; is just a re-spin of XP with added eye-candy and DRM.  It STILL uses the fundamentally broken NT kernel that was thrown together to &#8220;get something working&#8221; in 1991.</p>
<p>&#8220;Windows 7&#8243; &#8211; their next attempt at world domination &#8211; is just vapourware at the moment.  MS are in such dire need of real programmers that they are BUYING IN a kernel.  No doubt &#8220;Windows 7&#8243; will be outrageously expensive, require more hardware than anyone actually has (much to the continued delight of the hardware manufacturers), and still have all the restrictions and problems fundamental to MS&#8217; closed-source rubbish.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to see prominent people promoting FOSS.  It&#8217;s not going to take long to persuade the thinking public that they shouldn&#8217;t squander their money with MS!</p>
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		<title>By: Amys Welt &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hinreißend: Stephen &#8220;Freedom&#8221; Fry gratuliert GNU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amys Welt &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hinreißend: Stephen &#8220;Freedom&#8221; Fry gratuliert GNU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dem Video erkl&#228;rt der bekennende Macuser und Linux-Unterst&#252;tzer Stephen Fry die Idee und Philosophie hinter freier Software und der [...]</description>
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		<title>By: layna</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/02/01/deliver-us-from-microsoft/comment-page-4/#comment-13367</link>
		<dc:creator>layna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought an eee off of eBay last week - lots of them on there, as some people just can&#039;t get the hang of that little keyboard.  

I love it. The things I do the most - read, email, surf - it does beautifully. I have the teeny tiny 2GB version, but that only means I can double its memory with the thumb drive on my keychain. 

The best thing about it, really, is that it leaves room in my lap for the pug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought an eee off of eBay last week &#8211; lots of them on there, as some people just can&#8217;t get the hang of that little keyboard.  </p>
<p>I love it. The things I do the most &#8211; read, email, surf &#8211; it does beautifully. I have the teeny tiny 2GB version, but that only means I can double its memory with the thumb drive on my keychain. </p>
<p>The best thing about it, really, is that it leaves room in my lap for the pug.</p>
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		<title>By: amauryaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>amauryaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Stephen,
I agree with you on the fact that Linux and the open source community is going to have a bigger impact on the computer industry (just look at Microsoft putting XP on new eee pc!) but, don&#039;t you see the 2 different trends at the moment, Linux vs Microsoft or Symbian/Android vs iPhone. Do you think really that open source is going to quickly get more power over very closed OS. You can see the success of the App Store from Apple for its new version of the iPhone OS and even though some people are going to pwned their iPhone, I doubt it will be a big amount. 
Don&#039;t you think that what people want is fast and easy use of computer. And of course Windows is going that direction. The eee pc goes that direction as well as the mac, but see that the eee pc UI is not like a PC, and doesn&#039;t not allow much customisation. Though, my girlfriend who bought the eee pc, loves it, because it is quick to load and easy to use (unlike windows).
Don&#039;t you think that a system like mac OS X is what is going to happen to the PC world?  A mixed of Unix and the Apple savoir-faire for user friendly UI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Stephen,<br />
I agree with you on the fact that Linux and the open source community is going to have a bigger impact on the computer industry (just look at Microsoft putting XP on new eee pc!) but, don&#8217;t you see the 2 different trends at the moment, Linux vs Microsoft or Symbian/Android vs iPhone. Do you think really that open source is going to quickly get more power over very closed OS. You can see the success of the App Store from Apple for its new version of the iPhone OS and even though some people are going to pwned their iPhone, I doubt it will be a big amount.<br />
Don&#8217;t you think that what people want is fast and easy use of computer. And of course Windows is going that direction. The eee pc goes that direction as well as the mac, but see that the eee pc UI is not like a PC, and doesn&#8217;t not allow much customisation. Though, my girlfriend who bought the eee pc, loves it, because it is quick to load and easy to use (unlike windows).<br />
Don&#8217;t you think that a system like mac OS X is what is going to happen to the PC world?  A mixed of Unix and the Apple savoir-faire for user friendly UI?</p>
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		<title>By: raid517</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/02/01/deliver-us-from-microsoft/comment-page-4/#comment-13277</link>
		<dc:creator>raid517</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the God of all geeks Stephen and we love you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are the God of all geeks Stephen and we love you!</p>
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