http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap Just another bbPress community en-US Sun, 19 May 2013 18:41:50 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/search.php http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-64494 Tue, 27 May 2008 23:51:50 +0000 IdeaCollector 64494@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ Upon watching it yes he did seem a pinch uncomfortable but such is therapy.<br /> <br /> Its only as beneficial as you want it to be and honesty is part of receiving that benefit.<br /> <br /> One of the things I've always found particularly attractive and appealing about Mr. Fry is not only his intellect but also his attempts at honesty.<br /> <br /> What I mean by attempts is not that he fails in any way to provide honesty but instead that he always attempts to get to the heart of the manner.<br /> <br /> Par example...the sodomy bit. Is it honest to say that it was confusing when you take into account one's sexuality and is it honest to say that you felt you were supposed to embody a particular set of emotions? Yes...oh my god yes.<br /> <br /> Is there any possibility though that some of the emotions have been repressed or shelved b/c they are too painful? Yes as well.<br /> <br /> I don't know the true story to be sure but I do respect and find Mr. Fry's candor at the feelings that he recollects.<br /> <br /> And I too wish that we could all despite of whatever we have or where ever we come from wake up each morning and feel as though life is worth it.<br /> <br /> And that is my two cents on the matter whatever they are worth (generally I estimate them to be worth two pennies &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif&quot; title=&quot;;-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; ) http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-64452 Tue, 27 May 2008 14:23:51 +0000 Occy 64452@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ A few comments while watching it<br /> <br /> 1. Pamela is fine IMO - she is constantly at him because Stephen has a tendency to deviate <br /> <br /> 2. The whole sodomy thing - it seems like a simple adult conversation. He has said one thing...now he says another...the truth is probably somewhere in the middle as it is with most people...<br /> <br /> 3. Love is its own creation - it breathes and grows and moves and flows - it's timeless and endless - even unrequited love.<br /> <br /> All in all I think it was quite wonderfully well done. I see a lot of me in what Stephen said but I guess that is why I first was drawn to his work and to learn further about him. http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-64441 Tue, 27 May 2008 13:03:22 +0000 Occy 64441@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ That's feeling I get when people saying things like &quot;how could he let himself do this?&quot; etc<br /> <br /> Yea it was difficult but he chose to do it - he could have said no... http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-64429 Tue, 27 May 2008 06:09:03 +0000 Britannicus 64429@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ I don't think that is in question. http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-64427 Tue, 27 May 2008 02:58:13 +0000 Occy 64427@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ regardless - stephen is big boy and can make his own decisions http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-64403 Mon, 26 May 2008 16:54:17 +0000 Britannicus 64403@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif&quot; title=&quot;;-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; You may understand the angst when you've watched it. http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-64397 Mon, 26 May 2008 15:40:09 +0000 Occy 64397@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ well jesus people - if Stephen had been so uncomfortable with it he need not have done it? Non? He put himself out there and he knew what she was going to talk about so...I don't get all the angst about his being uncomfortable. I haven't watched it admittedly - might do another night but its 1am here and I have a long day ahead of me http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-63183 Mon, 12 May 2008 10:00:09 +0000 robertas 63183@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ Shyamz, I remember that post, lovely Sarah clued me in as I wrote a post about the whole Shrink Rap thing - it was a part of our Stephen Fry Appreciation Monday thingy &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; <br /> <br /> I watched bits of it, some bits were just too painful?, uncomfortable to watch. I know I am completely biased as I (like all of us here) have great fondness for our lovely Mr. Fry. But it has to be said although I'm a pacifist by nature I wanted to slap her silly. <br /> <br /> Also I think Sarah from facebook or was it Susan told me the person being interviewed decides what is edited and what is not. Can you imagine what was edited out if this was so uncomfortable to watch?<br /> I think they did present it as therapy show to the people who took part, but it is a telly show after all and what old Pamela was trying to do (in my opinion) was to fast forward it and compress what would probably be months of therapy in a few hours session (if it can even be called that). <br /> What struck me the most (again just my opinion) that in a way she was trying to bully him into saying he was abused. Which might or might not be true, it is after all his experience but if he is not ready to say the words bullying is not the way to go about it. http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-63158 Sun, 11 May 2008 23:45:58 +0000 fryfan20 63158@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ I don't understand why he agreed to do the program. The questions were awful and she was just focusing on sex. Also, therapy isn't something you do as entertainment. Why, Stephen, why? </blockquote><br /> <br /> because he can't say no, that i understand verry well. i have the same problem.<br /> and that women was awful to him, and he stayed so nice &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; title=&quot;:D&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-62723 Sun, 04 May 2008 21:28:15 +0000 nongenderous 62723@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ I don't understand why he agreed to do the program. The questions were awful and she was just focusing on sex. Also, therapy isn't something you do as entertainment. Why, Stephen, why? http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-62715 Sun, 04 May 2008 20:56:50 +0000 beckett23 62715@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ Interesting:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JXsyQWBbw4">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JXsyQWBbw4</a> watch at 4:30ff<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv1faghnKsQ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv1faghnKsQ</a> watch at 4:30ff http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-55145 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:51:34 +0000 amyl_nitrate 55145@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ Especially if she's not even accredited! &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8-O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-55114 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:22:20 +0000 Shyamz 55114@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ Sorry to drag up such an old thread for seemingly no reason, but a new post I spotted on Stephen's Facebook Proxy Group wall suddenly somehow makes me see the whole series in a new light (Post courtesy of Sarah Neumann Shoenbrun):<br /> <br /> <br /> <em>Apparently she has her psych doctorate from an *unaccredited* program in California. California is the only state that lets psychologists from unaccredited programs practice, I believe. Plus, apparently her specialty or concentration or whatever is in sex-related issues, so no wonder she wanted to concentrate on that particular experience.<br /> However, apparently the &quot;Shrink Rap&quot; interview is introduced to the celebrities as just another form of interview, and not a real therapy experience, so I suppose we shouldn't expect her to act exactly as a therapist.</em><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Facinating! Suddenly it all makes sense!<br /> <br /> And if it was presented to the guests as more of an ordinary interview than a therapy session, why was she allowed to ask the kinds of questions she did?..and how come it WAS presented to the public as a genuine &quot;therapist's couch&quot; type of show?<br /> <br /> Just as I thought, very dodgy all round... http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-29065 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:22:06 +0000 melampus 29065@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ If ever a psychological study needed to be done, the different ways in which we cope with shyness certainly should be addressed.</blockquote><br /> <br /> You handsome devil! I have always secretly thought that Stephen Fry may actually, deep deep deep deep down inside, be a shy person. But of course I will never know for sure.<br /> <br /> This is a bit off-topic, but the ABC here in Australia is currently screening another series of 'Brat Camp' and despite my mixed feelings about the 'brats' and the 'camps' and the whole politics/morality/etc etc of the entire undertaking, I couldn't help but watch it... like a train wreck I know...<br /> <br /> Anyway, one of the boys really stuck me -- so much that I can't remember his name!! :-// -- he's the kid whose grandmother looked into his newborn eyes and declared that he was 'going to be either an archbishop or an arch criminal'. Listening to his litany of crimes and misdemeanours, I instantly thought of Mr Fry. This 'brat' was doing almost exactly the same things that Stephen did -- lying, stealing, cheating, deceiving, robbing his mum and his sister, etc etc. This 'brat' was an intelligent boy who knew exactly what he had done. He just didn't seem to know why he did it, or how to control himself. (Or maybe the interviewer didn't bother to ask him.) Which led me to think, Does this boy have a mental illness? Is he super-clever? Of course, it's easy to sit on my arse on a couch and wonder such things when his mother, who has had to throw him out of the house for the 'good of the family', is in abject despair.<br /> <br /> But I couldn't help thinking about a certain very accomplished man who once fitted the 'brat' bill exactly. 'Is evil something you are, or something you do?' <br /> <br /> Pardon my musings, it's Friday afternoon here in Oz. <br /> <br /> xx Peace out http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/shrink-rap#post-28533 Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:22:08 +0000 Menecairiel 28533@http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/ I watched this and was amazed on how Mr Fry acted...very gracefully. I wasn't too keen on the fact she returned to the abuse all the time, when clearly he in his mind had dealt with it and oddly enough dismissed it. <br /> <br /> Still, a very enlightening program, and I did enjoy listening to Mr Fry's voice.