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			<title>alfredo3 on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>alfredo3</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Some information about my upcoming book which should be available early next year.  It is about my journey with bipolar II disorder  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_rolleyes.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:roll:&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt;  &#60;/p&#62;
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			<title>Vampyros on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;The Katy Sara Culling Tribute is ready in e-Book form &#60;a href=&#34;http://chipmunkapublishing.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&#38;amp;products_id=2326&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://chipmunkapublishing.co.uk/shop/index.php?ma.....ts_id=2326&#60;/a&#62; Charity/Bipolar &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks to everyone who supported and contributed please spread the word.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Many thanks&#60;br /&#62;
Vx (Amanda Groves)&#60;/p&#62;
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			<title>Lady Estelle on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 08:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Lady Estelle</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;After reading all that work, i feel highly inadequate with my writing skills.... i&#38;#39;d love to share something with you all though.... this is a true story about a dear friend of mine. i posted it in the introductions page.... then i found this place... wowser, i should pay more attention. hope you uhm... like it? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Memento&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sian was five foot six with a thin frame with mouse brown regrowth underneath her auburn dyed hair. She had wise, brown eyes that twinkled mischievously when she thought something was funny.  Her skin so pale that she often joked that vampires suggested that she needed more sunlight.  She had a trilling laugh, high pitched and unabashedly loud. More of a sneeze of laughter than a complete laugh. She was smart, funny and unbelievably kind. Her mind was so often off with the fairies that I joked with her that the fairy society must have considered her an honorary citizen. Her utter love of Judy Garland sticks in my mind. I guess that’s why her hair was such a bright red. She was out of her time, born later than she should have been. She lamented not being born in the late 30’s or early 40’s purely so she could have witnessed the rise of Judy Garland and lived through the era of the glorious stage productions. Sian herself was a great lover of the stage, spending what money she could allow on trips to see various shows. In her spare time she graced the stage with her presence, often spending months beforehand organising things in the background. I always loved to hear how things were progressing in her work, adoring the way she became jittery with excitement at what her new project was. However, I could also see the strain between the three aspects of her life; the stage, university and her home life. I never really knew much about her home life. She kept that part of her quiet and unmentioned. I’d met her at university, our first day there together and became fast friends.&#60;br /&#62;
I remember what her hair looked like that first day. Freshly dyed and cut into a bob. The ends framed her face, her round cheerful face and she looked up at me from under a straight fringe that covered her eyebrows. She was seated in the front row, unconcerned by the people behind her that seemed to be paying particular attention to her hair. I admired that about her straight away and asked if I could sit down next to her. She smiled gratefully and shoved her things aside so I could put my stuff down.&#60;br /&#62;
“I’m Beth, pleased to meet you.”&#60;br /&#62;
“Hi, I’m Sian.”&#60;br /&#62;
And that was the start of our friendship. We ate lunch together that day and bonded over our loathing of the class that we had together. We both despised the teacher that we had because we knew what we were doing in that class. We laughed and thought up new and inventive ways, to get through the lessons. One of our favourites would be to pick a word at the start of the class that we would have to put into all the answers that we came up with. It was interesting to try and get the other to laugh as well as keep a straight face while answering the teacher. It was great to watch the other work through and see what we could come up with. In a montage to a Johnny Depp movie that she and I adored, one of the words we chose was underwear; a somewhat troublesome word when referencing national parks and wildlife. Sian ended up suggesting that kangaroo attacks were on the rise because they weren’t allowed to wear underwear. I managed to conclude that tourism would increase if people were allowed to either walk around with no underwear on or that Australia should sell underwear with the tagline “budgie-smugglers for all” written on them. Both of us were successful that day in making each other snort with laughter as well as the class. Whether or not our teacher ever noticed our game is beyond me. It didn’t matter to Sian and I. We were having fun. It was during those classes that we really got to know each other. It is somewhat strange now, thinking back, that she never really said anything about herself. She always managed to turn my questions around and make them about a movie or back to me. She knew everything about me and yet I never really knew about her. In a strange way, I didn’t need to know the intricate details. I understood who she was without the knowledge of her life. It was later that I would find out her mother’s name is Helen and her sister’s name is Erica. I never met her father.&#60;br /&#62;
Movies were Sian’s passion. On the few occasions we caught up outside of university hours, we would sit around watching old movies, she singing along to all the musical numbers. She had a lovely voice and was talented in adjusting her voice to each singer she admired the most. Her bedroom, an on-campus hovel, was brightly decorated with posters and made into a loving collage of faces. On more than a few occasions I caught her wistfully looking up at them. What I mistook for a look of admiration was more pleading. I understand now that Sian wanted to be with them. What little I would ask her, as she lay pinned beneath my weight, would return to the world of the silver screen that she loved so much. I didn’t miss that she was sad or disliked being around other people, I just missed something along the way. Missed a clue that she didn’t say. Then again, she never really spoke about anything of great consequence.&#60;br /&#62;
I introduced Sian to my love of comedy and she introduced me further to the decadent world of the old silver screen. She was incredibly switched on and understood how and why the world of comedy appealed to me. Before long we were swapping DVDs; herk, the beloved Judy Garland movies she possessed and I my cherished comedy gigs.  She fell hard and fast for the world of comedy I showed her, amassing a large collection of comedy DVDs in a very short amount of time. Sian often said that comedy was the only modern thing that she genuinely enjoyed. We relished the time we spent together and loved what time we had away from university. Outside of uni we didn’t really talk as we both led busy lives. Besides, Sian never kept her phone on her. Yet, we always made sure to ask about our weekends were and to see how everything was going. It always amazed me that she remembered every detail of my life. My parents, my sister, my love; everything. Hell, she even remembered the name of my dog.&#60;br /&#62;
Don’t mistake me; I always tried to get her to open up so I could learn more about her. But she was gifted at dodging my attempts. In all our time I don’t think she ever mentioned her family, let alone other friends that she had. She had some people that she knew from the theatre, but it seemed that was it. Other than myself and the theatre, it seemed that Sian was alone. Sometimes, I tried to introduce her to my other friends, to expand her contact with people. Remarkably, although Sian was capable of being in front of thousands of people, she was shy when only a few surrounded her. I have no idea whether it was a good idea to try and help her in that way, but Sian said that she appreciated that I was trying. I hope she did, but more than that, I hope she didn’t mind. I knew how much she hated meeting new people. Yet there was no way that I was going to abandon her to a large group that she didn’t know. It wouldn’t have been fair of me to do that to her. She was a quiet timid, creature most of the time. Yet it suited me just fine to have a friend that was so relaxed and quiet. I was far too used to people being over the top and sometimes rather annoying. Sian settled me whenever I became wound up about something in particular and reminded me that it was no use complaining about something, unless I was going to do something about it.&#60;br /&#62;
Whenever I needed to vent Sian, she would calmly listen, with a somewhat bemused look on her face. Not because I was erroneous or veracious rather that I was complaining about things that didn’t matter in the grand scheme. Sian would always remind me, with a slight smirk, that if it didn’t matter right then, it probably wasn’t ever going to matter. In a lot of ways, Sian was far wiser than I was. In a way she was already removed from the Earth not caring, one way or another what happened.  At the time I thought she was teaching me a new way of looking at the world, an alternative to my wild, sporadic ramblings I was given to. In a way she was teaching me. Then it seemed as though it was wise to observe the world from an objective third party and to not become passionately involved because it served no purpose. It suited my usually calm demeanour and served to placate my view on the world. It’s only now that I realise she was neither right nor wrong. Simply misguided. She was correct in suggesting that small things didn’t matter, however she was also wrong to assume that things were as simple as always staying the same. Matters at hand alter and sway, that is the point of life. Sian’s theory was to lie down and let the world pass you by. In a way, Sian taught me that the world has to be fought for as much as my family and friends. By telling me one side, she taught me the opposite.&#60;br /&#62;
Sian gave no warning of what was to come. She was as happy go lucky as she usually was; she kept away from large groups of people and constantly sought out new copies of old movies. She continued to suggest movies and comedy for me to watch. She still sang the old show tunes. We’d taken to sitting in one of the student foyers where the acoustics were fantastic and would sing as loud as we could. Either way we didn’t mind who sang lead, usually the sounds sorted themselves out. We’d roar with laughter every time someone walked past and simply stared in amazement at the sounds we were making, then continue right on singing. It was fantastic. On a few occasions, the teacher of our class that we both loathed would come out and shush us. We’d wait until she was safely back in her office then start singing again. Our word games in class were as fun as ever, the words becoming more and more difficult to randomly drop into conversation. Some of the words that I remember included intestine, fatuous, herpes and fornication. We’d invented a game another two games by now. One included choosing a word and dropping it in to a sentence as many times as we could. The other was to start talking about something that had nothing to do with question asked then say the words “but I digress”, in homage to Wil Anderson, one of our favourite comedians, then answer the question.&#60;br /&#62;
My personal favourite of Sian’s was that she managed to complete two games in one answer. She was asked to spell out the word “abstinence” for someone else in the class and answered:&#60;br /&#62;
“F. O. R. N. I. C. A. T. I. O. N. But I digress,” then proceeded to spell the correct word. I was laughing so hard that I had to leave the room for fear of wetting myself.&#60;br /&#62;
It was drawing to the end of the semester at university. so our class was slowing down. Sian and I still rocked up, merely to get our name ticked off and so we could muck around a bit more. It was a great time. At the same time as I was glad the class was over, I lamented seeing it go because I didn’t know if I’d get another class with Sian the next year. And I knew that there was no way that we’d end up talking during the holidays, regardless of how much we tried to. With her workload in the theatre and my having to look after stuff in another town, there was little chance for us to be able to catch up. We both hated the idea, yet we swore that we’d do our utmost to get together every now and then during our four month absence from uni life. However, we both had exams to get through first. One of which was for the class that we both loathed. Our teacher lined us up and said that neither of us were going to pass the exam, because we apparently never paid attention; even though both of us had received high marks for all of our previous assignments. After that, we simply shrugged and decided to wing it. For the last class we literally stuck our head through the door, waved at the teacher and the rest of the class and then went to the student lounge and got some lunch.&#60;br /&#62;
It would be the week after that final, happy lunch that our exam would be. November the 17th 2010. We caught up briefly before the exam and were sitting two seats apart. We’d heard rumours beforehand that our teacher had requested that we be seated apart, but had been barred because the idea of exams was for them to be completely impartial and anonymous. The exam itself was a breeze, both of us careful not to make noises that would make each other laugh; otherwise we would have been kicked out of the room. Including reading time and the time it took us to furiously scribble the word count required we were in and out of the room forty-five minutes before the exam was scheduled to end. We were completely alone, just she and I as we had intended. We walked away from the hall and made plans to wander down the street and get some lunch before I headed home on the bus back to Echuca. She mentioned something about going home to change first and to drop off her car before she would join me down the street. She carried the same handmade bag that she always did. I saw the regular town bus pull up and said:&#60;br /&#62;
“I’ll see you soon huh? Look after yourself.”&#60;br /&#62;
“I always do.”&#60;br /&#62;
I turned back to her in time to see her pull a regular kitchen knife from her bag.  I didn’t even have time to really process what she had in her hand before she drew the blade across her wrist. Her left first, then her right. She dropped the blade and my instincts took over and I lunged forward. I clasped my hands around her open and bleeding wounds trying to stop the gushing warmth. I looked over my should and kicked the knife as far away from us as I could. She was shaking already and slowly slumped down to the ground. As I went with her to make sure I held onto her as tightly as I could all she said was:&#60;br /&#62;
“I’m sorry. I had to.”&#60;br /&#62;
“Ah come on. You said you bought a DVD this morning. What was it?”&#60;br /&#62;
I thought of anything I could to keep her talking; movies being the easiest thing to concentrate on as I thought about how I was going call an ambulance. There was no one else outside and wasn’t likely to be anyone for quite a while. Her normally pale skin became damn near see through and clammy as shock set in. The only way I was going to be able to call an ambulance was going to be to kneel on her wrist and grab my phone from my pocket.&#60;br /&#62;
“This is going to hurt. I’m sorry, but I have to get to my phone, ok?”&#60;br /&#62;
I warned her as best I could and then knelt on her arm. I chose the right arm as it was less damaged than the left. Sian squirmed and shouted as I pressed my weight to what I felt was alright for keeping pressure onto her arm. As I held the phone as best as could in my hand I felt her blood roll down my arm and drip off my elbow. The ambulance would be there as soon as it could. All I had to do was try and keep her calm and stop the bleeding as best I could. Sarcasm burned through me and I simply thanked them for the sterling and blatantly obvious advice. Somewhere in the time we discussed the countless movies she and I had seen and were yet to see, Sian asked me to call her mum to let her know what was going on. This meant that I had to kneel on Sian’s arm again to get her phone out of her pocket because she didn’t remember the number. After a fair bit off effort the phone was free and the call was made. I can’t even remember what I said to Helen, Sian’s mum. Even now looking back I haven’t a clue. All I remember is thinking it would be at least twenty minutes before Helen would be able to get there. Thinking more practically, I scrambled around in Sian’s bag in search for a spare shirt or belt to stem the bleeding. I couldn’t find anything. So I was stuck holding her wrists until help arrived. I didn’t see another person until the sudden flurry and blur of Sian’s mother and the ambulance arrived. By the time the two groups of people arrived it had been forty-five minutes and my hands were cramping and the blood was stinking. Flies had begun to buzz and Sian was nodding in and out of consciousness.&#60;br /&#62;
What happened after that, I can’t clearly remember. Time seemed to meld together and faces swapped bodies. I was shoved backwards; hands crusted and flaked with the blood of my friend. The demanding questions of “WHY?” and “HOW?” were shouted at me as people panicked. By now a few more people had started to come out of the exam and were being held back by some of the uni teachers and some police officers that had also responded to the call. It was almost like a thunderstorm; noisy and a series of flashes before it blows itself out and the viewer is left standing alone completely struck by the situation. It took all of three minutes to pack Sian up into the ambulance and whisk her away. Her mother said something about calling me and left with her. And there, I was left. Standing underneath a massive gumtree, blood smeared all over me, alone. In a daze I found a tap, washed the blood off as best I could and then called my Dad. Later on, he would tell me that I hadn’t mentioned anything about Sian’s attempt on her life. I was in a daze and had deeply supressed what I had seen. It was several hours before I remembered what had happened. I broke down then.&#60;br /&#62;
I wasn’t allowed to be near with Sian during the week she was shut away. I had a few phone calls from Helen reporting in what was happening. Sian had cut her left arm so deep that several tendons had to be reattached. She was being kept in hospital and put on suicide watch for a week to make sure she healed somewhat before releasing her. I hated that week, walking around in circles, dazed and heavily relying on friends of mine for comfort, though no one knowing entirely what to say. It didn’t matter to me, as long as they were there. I planned to visit her the morning of her release, November the 26th, 2010. As I was about to leave for the bus to go and see her, Helen rang me.&#60;br /&#62;
“Sian locked herself in the bathroom of her room at the hospital. She broke the mirror.”&#60;br /&#62;
I waited as Helen tried to hold back heaving sobs. I dreaded what was coming, but I already knew what had happened. Yet, I had to hear it.&#60;br /&#62;
“Sian killed herself this morning at 5:36 am.”&#60;br /&#62;
I didn’t even get to say thank you for the information or to comfort Helen. She simply hung up. I understood that she had things to do for her daughter, family and to tell other people. I sat down on the couch and started to cry. I was going to be on my own all day. I cried until my head hurt. My friends were at work and my family lived hours away. My heart tore at the loss of Sian and my brain tore at me for having missed what was so terrible in her life. Logic told me I had done everything possible to help her. Yet she was still gone.&#60;br /&#62;
The day of Sian’s funeral I didn’t know what to expect. Many of my friends and family had offered to go with me to the funeral, but I needed to go by myself. There was no coffin, just a small emerald green urn with black marble swirling on it. I held myself together and glanced around at who else was there, hoping that no one would ask any questions about what had happened or if I knew why she had claimed her own life. I spied some of the people from our class that had been harassing her about her hair and style. A part of me wanted the anger to seethe and strike out at them. Yell at them and ask them why they were there, because they didn’t know her. I did. Her family did. They weren’t her friends. But I also knew that there was no point. I’d just be striking out for the sake of striking out. It wasn’t the place, nor was it the time. I held it together right up until Helen spotted me.&#60;br /&#62;
She came over with Sian’s older sister, Erica, and introduced us. The formal condolences were exchanged and then Helen did something I wasn’t expecting. From deep within her pocket she produced a small plastic bag with a tiny silver charm in it.&#60;br /&#62;
“It’s a guardian angel. Because that is what you are. You’re Sian’s guardian angel.” Helen said to me.&#60;br /&#62;
“No, no I’m not.” I stammered, overwhelmed by the thought and gift. “I didn’t do anything. I tried and I couldn’t.” I indicated to the small urn at the front of the room, Sian’s things scattered around it.&#60;br /&#62;
“Oh yes you are. You gave her back to me. You let me say what I needed to. It’s because of you she had that time.” Helen’s eyes welled up again for the umpteenth time and she indicated to my necklace. “She told me about that necklace of yours. So I want you to have this. Please.”&#60;br /&#62;
Oh, that last word cut through me so much that I couldn’t refuse. Without delay I put the charm on my necklace and broke down. It was the first time that day that I’d allowed myself to do so. The charm is still on my necklace, even though I don’t think I deserve it. Not as a marker of Sian’s death, but as a memorial to her life.&#60;br /&#62;
I still hold fond memories of Sian’s life and it is a year later. I didn’t know how to celebrate the life she had or the time that we had. So a man that I admire suggested that I do the best thing I know how to do; write. Write about what Sian and I had. Although it was only a short time in regards to most friendships, it’s one that will stick with me forever.
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			<title>Vampyros on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-281705</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Vampyros</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Nice one JM. Sorry not enough energy to give your post the time it deserves just now but will do.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Vx
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			<title>Jake Maverick on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-281701</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Jake Maverick</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;BEING A POLITICAL DISSIDENT IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I do not believe in any such thing as a &#38;#39;mental illness&#38;#39;. People are different by their very nature, we are not robots...just because you have a different pinion to somebody does not actually make your &#38;#39;victim&#38;#39; ill nor does it any way justify any extra judicial punishment you may want to inflict on them....who drwas the &#38;#39;line&#38;#39; anyway...? surely they all draw it in slightly different places.&#38;#39;..? But anyway, to something I wrote once....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#38;lt;&#38;lt;&#38;lt;&#38;lt;&#38;lt;in the form of a spam email....really no energy to re-write for this thread!  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;;-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt;  (&#38;amp; if you see that Mitchell bloke tell him i want 10% and Ronnie&#38;#39;s phone number......)&#38;gt;&#38;gt;&#38;gt;&#38;gt;&#38;gt;&#38;gt;&#38;gt;&#38;gt;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hi&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Been trying to find some sort of &#38;#39;help&#38;#39; in the UK, for many years, with no success. My story is here, but pls email me back if you would like a Word Doc/ foramtted more readable version! Not making attachment as that usually makes the email get labelled as spam/ virus or soemthing...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Pls forgive my curtness, just so little energy left these days...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This is what is done to political dissidents in the UK these days...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://jakemaverick.blogspot.com/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://jakemaverick.blogspot.com/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/2010/05/the-psychiatric-reprisal/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/2010/05/the-psychiatric-reprisal/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A&#38;amp;feature=player_embedded&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A&#38;amp;feature=player_embedded&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.lesdove.blogspot.com/2009/02/torture-report.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.lesdove.blogspot.com/2009/02/torture-report.html&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#38;amp;v=9VJpuASP1zs#%21&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#38;amp;v=9VJpuASP1zs#%21&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;People do ask for me to try and summarise it down a bit, but as i say virtually no energy left. Did have a go in an email the other day though,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#38;quot;I struggle to do anything else with it though. Even typing  abit&#60;br /&#62;
difficult with how my wrists/ hand is atthe moment. Already edited&#60;br /&#62;
about sixty pages out of it, and it was only ever the second half of&#60;br /&#62;
the story...several years (probably about 5) of being targetted before&#60;br /&#62;
that blog started...cars driven at me in the street, randomly punched&#60;br /&#62;
in the head by starngers in the street, nearly pushed under a bus once&#60;br /&#62;
but i know who did that....camera pointed through my bedroom window&#60;br /&#62;
24/7 for abt ayear and forced to pay for the privelege, black listed&#60;br /&#62;
for jobs, poisoned watyer supply, no central heating, rats running&#60;br /&#62;
about the place, half starved through lack of food....never got any&#60;br /&#62;
&#38;#39;justification&#38;#39; for that, I do know how it sounds! If you haven&#38;#39;t yet&#60;br /&#62;
try reading some of the gangstalking TI sites...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If he/ she needs a summary of the blog, I will try....lil point&#60;br /&#62;
though, been banging my head against a wall for ten years now! Just to&#60;br /&#62;
be clear, that was a metaphor!  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;;-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I was already homeless. They took that away from me and had already&#60;br /&#62;
effectively become a refugee in my own country. as wellas my bank&#60;br /&#62;
account/ any source of income.... Then i was visciously beaten up and&#60;br /&#62;
abducted/ kidnapped. Black trousers and white shirts, but i suspect&#60;br /&#62;
they may have been employed as pigyobs or browncoats. Yanked very hard&#60;br /&#62;
on my testicles repeaedtly. Still got a lot of pain in the left one,&#60;br /&#62;
&#38;#39;never hung right&#38;#39; since...twisted possibly fractured my wrists when&#60;br /&#62;
my arms were twisted behind my back and manacled/ handcuffed...the&#60;br /&#62;
left wrist still feels weak, soemtimes alil bit pain/stiff...punched&#60;br /&#62;
me repeatedly in lower back and back of head, grit in my eyes, grit&#60;br /&#62;
down my throat, triggering a somewhat severe asthma attack, really did&#60;br /&#62;
think i was being suffocated, knee in my back then to making it even&#60;br /&#62;
harder to breathe...it was all filmed on camera...then abducted,&#60;br /&#62;
bounced abt in a back of van until semi concious. then yanked out,&#60;br /&#62;
beaten up and stripped naked forced into guantanamo jump suit....i&#60;br /&#62;
thought i was abt to be sent overseas! that probably sounds&#60;br /&#62;
melodramatic, but i swear that is what happened! never said so much as&#60;br /&#62;
a word to me&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;locked up for several months. not sure exactly how long. during which&#60;br /&#62;
time randomly violently assaulted. anally raped once i beleive. gang&#60;br /&#62;
raped reapeatedly on numerous occasions, i.e. violently/ sexually&#60;br /&#62;
asaulted and injected with unknown substances. also forced to swallow&#60;br /&#62;
things as well. substances unknown. it was all filmed on&#60;br /&#62;
camera...eithe rone&#38;#39;s mounted on the walls or via mobile phone.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;their sole justification for it? simply the accusation of &#38;#39;believeing&#60;br /&#62;
the govt is evil, isn&#38;#39;t it?&#38;#39; they never actually bothered to ask me&#60;br /&#62;
what i thought of the govt. or which one for that matter. refused to discuss &#38;#39;politics&#38;#39; with me at&#60;br /&#62;
any time....i did initially try to engage them in &#38;#39;debate&#38;#39;/&#60;br /&#62;
reason....severe memory problems with what else went on. was the&#60;br /&#62;
threat of &#38;#39;electric shock&#38;#39; treatment but i have no memory of them&#60;br /&#62;
actually implementing that. dnt think they did, but cnt be&#60;br /&#62;
sure...think memory loss/ brain damage down to chemical abuse, best i&#60;br /&#62;
can gather...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;initial stint was two weeks, or so they say...then i tried compalining&#60;br /&#62;
to IPCC again so yobos in white shirts and black trousers kicke dthe&#60;br /&#62;
door in again, seriosuly kicke dthe shit out of me agn dislocating my&#60;br /&#62;
back and then same treatment for a couple of more months or there&#60;br /&#62;
abts....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;for the last four years chronic pain in bowels/ groin, lower stomach&#60;br /&#62;
(kidneys/ liver?), lower back, constant headache for over four years&#60;br /&#62;
now, different parts of my head varying in intensity. blurred vison&#60;br /&#62;
occasionally, i suspect some kind of brain damage possible tumour. had&#60;br /&#62;
trouble walking for a couple of weeks at end of 2006/7 i think (from&#60;br /&#62;
memory, very hazy memory now) from the dislocatedc back, i presume.&#60;br /&#62;
bleeding out of backside for a long time/ total loss of control of&#60;br /&#62;
bowel movements on several occasions, but all taht seems to have&#60;br /&#62;
stopped now. scars around my groin, but faded a hell of alot since.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;after released, randomly harassed/ summoned/ interrogated for over a year....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;to this day stillnot &#38;#39;allowed&#38;#39; bank account/ access to money/ benefits&#60;br /&#62;
in any form....refugee in my own country, parents collaborated with&#60;br /&#62;
them and have been forced effetively to &#38;#39;live&#38;#39; survive as their&#60;br /&#62;
prisoner for coming upfive years now...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;cnt even confirm whether or not any of them were real g-men! &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;in reference to what your man says about the &#38;#39;secret rules&#38;#39; on secret&#60;br /&#62;
websites that unilaterally vary when ever they like stuff/ codes of&#60;br /&#62;
conduct etc, he/ she really has no idea does he/ she? NOT possible to&#60;br /&#62;
get access to such things and every time you try to engage these&#60;br /&#62;
&#38;#39;people&#38;#39; in conversation they just lie to your face/ ignore you/&#60;br /&#62;
randomly violently or sexually assault you! only way to get a name out&#60;br /&#62;
of one is to kill one in self defence....what one has to do to one to&#60;br /&#62;
get to see some ID, admit tehy&#38;#39;re g-men, see the warrant for that&#60;br /&#62;
information or access to these &#38;#39;secret rules&#38;#39; is way beyond my powers&#60;br /&#62;
of deduction!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;After a year or so I did finally get a SIGNED letter from the GMC,&#60;br /&#62;
stating they were going to ignore my &#38;#39;legal proceedings against them&#38;#39;&#60;br /&#62;
as none of the people attacked me were on the &#38;#39;medical reigister&#38;#39;.&#60;br /&#62;
apparently everybody employed by the NHS (recpetionists, managers,&#60;br /&#62;
electricians etc.) are automatically put on the medical register&#60;br /&#62;
without their knowledge or consnet, apparently....so i can only&#60;br /&#62;
presuem that tehir investigations, presuming they did any, had&#60;br /&#62;
concluded that they weren&#38;#39;t specifically employed by the govt dept.&#60;br /&#62;
known as the NHS.....but i still presume they were employed as g-men&#60;br /&#62;
of soem sort, considering they operated in broad daylight, the way the&#60;br /&#62;
yob mutherfrackers behave and access to the kind of equipment/ weapons&#60;br /&#62;
and facilities that they did have access to....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;never gonna be able to &#38;#39;prove&#38;#39; any of it though....still refusing to&#60;br /&#62;
confirm or deny what they did with tthe video recordings....stopped&#60;br /&#62;
asking now, got fed up with being attacked for it! all i can do is to&#60;br /&#62;
continue with my campaign, they will ahve to torture me agn to even&#60;br /&#62;
make me talk to them now....best i can hope for it a Raoul Moat&#60;br /&#62;
ending.....the guy also had TI written all over him, I wd be decking&#60;br /&#62;
my place out with cameras to if i had one/ had the resources....but&#60;br /&#62;
they neutralised me long ago! tried to kill myself several times&#60;br /&#62;
2006/7, but turns out i just didn&#38;#39;t have stones for it....total&#60;br /&#62;
coward...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;as for the blog, really best i can do now. no energy to go through it&#60;br /&#62;
all agn....at the time i just needed to get down as much as i cd&#60;br /&#62;
remember/ much detail as possible whilst i still rembered it! cnt&#60;br /&#62;
really make it any shorter....this has been going on for over ten&#60;br /&#62;
years now! to my eternal shame, i never once lifted o much as a finger&#60;br /&#62;
to defend myself! yet! it&#38;#39;s certainly not going to me going&#60;br /&#62;
&#38;#39;pre-emptive&#38;#39; on them, whoever they are....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;everything i can possibly think of to do has already been done. wdn&#38;#39;t&#60;br /&#62;
even give me access to small claims court- so all i cd try to do was&#60;br /&#62;
publicise! at least some influential peeps have read it, i noted the&#60;br /&#62;
liks of David Mitchell and that senior liberal democrat blatantly&#60;br /&#62;
ripping off my material! did have a lil bit support initially from&#60;br /&#62;
contacts i used to have in Nick Clegg&#38;#39;s offics. His people just ignore&#60;br /&#62;
me to now since he became deputy prime minister....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;did just make msm once though,  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;;-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Post 25&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2010/05/wednesday_26_may_2010.html#comments&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebtea.....l#comments&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;all i want is to be let out of prison now, surely i been punished&#60;br /&#62;
enough already for what i allegedly believed?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#38;quot; In reality it isn’t against the law (should be) to drug somebody&#60;br /&#62;
against their will.  It is against the law to brutally attack them or&#60;br /&#62;
physically harm them.    But it’s there definition of abuse and harm&#60;br /&#62;
and they can do whatever they want!&#38;quot;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;as i said in blog, paraphrasing criminal and illegal are not&#60;br /&#62;
synonymous, never have been anywhere as far as i can tell! against the&#60;br /&#62;
law? what abt putting on a disguise, creeping up behind someone and&#60;br /&#62;
shooting them repeatedly in the head? murdering the man with the table&#60;br /&#62;
leg? breaking in and murdering the guy whilst shagging his g/f?&#60;br /&#62;
dropping bombs on children? or any of these crimes illegal? where can&#60;br /&#62;
i get access to these secret laws and have them independly verified?&#60;br /&#62;
locking up political dissidents and torturing them without trial?&#60;br /&#62;
human rights act? i mean, HELLO....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;of course, talking like this was presumably why they targette dme for&#60;br /&#62;
it....they must have been spying on me/ reading my emails for quite&#60;br /&#62;
some time! look up those RIPA laws!!!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;does that count as a &#38;#39;summary&#38;#39;, pls let me know your thoughts!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;JM&#38;quot;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Beyond desperate here, hope you can help!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;JM
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			<title>Vampyros on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-281585</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Vampyros</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Very very important please watch then support/buy song for the following charity &#38;quot;The L Project&#38;quot;, &#38;quot;It Does Get Better&#38;quot;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EUifVn-TC4&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EUifVn-TC4&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They need your help, buy and promote anyway you can, too many have lost their lives already.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Many Thanks,&#60;br /&#62;
V.
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			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-281581</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Vampyros</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;thanks for the overwhelming response&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;;-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Vx
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			<title>Vampyros on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-281547</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Vampyros</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Due to a couple of very late last minute contributions I am in a position to ask if anyone else wishes to add some of their creative writing, poems, verses, funnies etc Artwork as well but it will only be printed in Black and white.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Closing date is 12th February 2012.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Either PM or email &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:KatySaraCullingTributeBook@yahoo.com&#34;&#62;KatySaraCullingTributeBook@yahoo.com&#60;/a&#62; for more information.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Many Thanks&#60;br /&#62;
V
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			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-281513</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Vampyros</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Long time no speak. The final final version of the charity tribute book for Katy has been sent to publisher&#38;#39;s. The contract is being reviewed by her family, a few tweaks then away we go.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Due mainly to my ill health (mental and physical) it has all taken much longer than planned. In the end we recruited 35 contributor&#38;#39;s from many area&#38;#39;s of Katy&#38;#39;s life.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We are all very proud of the final result. I will keep you informed.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks to all those who contributed and/or supported this project.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Great to see some new works on here, maybe we can do another book in the future.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;xxxxx&#60;br /&#62;
V.
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			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-280341</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Reynard Da Sylva</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Ohh, a place for writing and sharing ideas about the minds condition, double bonus!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Larks &#38;amp; Quarks&#60;br /&#62;
Take a look at science and get into a mind like Einstein’s&#60;br /&#62;
To me it&#38;#39;s frightening the blindness we can live by.&#60;br /&#62;
We could take raw energy and apply any theories randomly&#60;br /&#62;
we can build an end to humanity but discover no  sense of identity&#60;br /&#62;
Fashioning our crafts from half truths and uncertainty.&#60;br /&#62;
Ideas of relativity don&#38;#39;t help me interact with anybody and quantum mechanics just don’t help me manage.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;These realms of possibility are black holes in the space of reality where time collides along the boundary of our journey.&#60;br /&#62;
If we can will such things to being can they bring us closer to meaning, to what&#38;#39;s beyond an answer for any question?&#60;br /&#62;
Do these ideas seem alien?&#60;br /&#62;
As I look around surprised is the blue sky just bent light, is behaviour just a flight of fancy&#60;br /&#62;
Who determines that e=mc. Squared or to the power of 2, shared this doesn&#38;#39;t do enough for me and you.&#60;br /&#62;
Spared the unbearable truth our awareness takes us through beyond the infinite and absolute.&#60;br /&#62;
A blend of presence and absence,&#60;br /&#62;
movement without resistance, sensuous harmony and symmetry in minds reflections, a collective essence.&#60;br /&#62;
Overwhelming waves of experience could brush with the lightest touch past your world of existence, that animates the difference between what is and what isn&#38;#39;t.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I wrote poetry since early teens, now in my 40s. I work within the field of behaviour and also have experienced some concerning episodes. I went to see a specialist who told me I was avoiding intimacy and relaity, engaged in escapism. Even though my episodes are disturbing, I had to laugh when he said &#38;quot;Take this pill in the morning, this one in the evening.&#38;quot; I asked him how it will help me experience reality and he waffled on about some chemical balance the pills would help with, he didn&#38;#39;t believe an imbalance was what reality was all about. I declined the &#38;#39;help&#38;#39; his science could offer. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I resolved to develop my own understanding of the human brain and especially, some of the anxiety and creativity that comes in different states. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I&#38;#39;ve had half of my theory published and the other half is awaiting review and editing, I can&#38;#39;t post it here but if you are interested part 1 is at: &#60;a href=&#34;http://mindscienceandcreativity.wordpress.com/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://mindscienceandcreativity.wordpress.com/&#60;/a&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It&#38;#39;s about language and creativity so it may be quite interesting for people here.   &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.stephenfry.com/bb-content/plugins//bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; 
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			<title>alfredo3 on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-278161</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>alfredo3</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Dear A-MC,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I feel that you haven&#38;#39;t messed up anything. If nothing else, it is very good to have you write here. Depression is a major aspect of bipolar disorder because we tend to get more depression than any other mood and it is the depression that is difficult to cope with. You suffer with Unipolar disorder (although there are many people with bipolar who do not know that they suffer with bipolar thinking that they suffer with depression alone)&#60;br /&#62;
I have a lot of personal experience of depression so  that if you want to discuss anything we can talk about it here. The good thing is that no one is an expert here and we all write from direct experience. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I often mess up thing, make mistakes and even say silly things. But that does not stop me from writing. I never said that I was perfect. At times I can be an idiot but at other times I can be very helpful . The moods can affect one&#38;#39;s thinking. I call it stinking thinking. But here we all understand each other or at least we should. In fact, part of the effort to eliminate stigma, should be based on the understanding that sufferer&#38;#39;s ideas, thoughts and feelings can be affected by emotions and our thinking can become distorted. That is why it is so important to open up on places like this one, even online, and help each other. This way people get to know us and we get to know ourselves.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Life is not about being perfect or doing or saying the right thing at all times to show others that we are near perfect. It is about being imperfect and coping with a mental disorder and learning to function better by helping each other. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am willing to make a fool of myself if this does some good somewhere. Sometimes it is the end product that we have to consider not the journey in achieving or creating this product alone. And we also have to consider the fact that WE ARE ALL CONNECTED. There is no me or you really speaking this something that has been created in the Western world. We are many but we are one.
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			<title>A-MC on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-278041</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>A-MC</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Am so sorry folks! Told you I would mess it up! Have just realised there is a whole area for new folks to introduce themselves! I will go and do that now. I really need lessons on how Forums actually work! Really sorry if I interrupted the flow on here! Best, A-M
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			<link>http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/topic/writers-thread/page/10#post-278039</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>A-MC</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello everyone on here. I am a newbie and have never done Forum chat before so please hang in there with me if I get it wrong! I&#38;#39;ll keep it short as I know so many people have their stories to tell. I do not have to deal with manic depression but I do have to work my way through what can be severe depression on a regular basis. My admiration for Stephen in all his guises and his very courageous addressing of depressive illness is what led me here. I hope I can be accepted. It is very difficult to open up about any form of depression but then on top of that to find a space where people are just people and have the same interests, with depression as not the thing that defines them but just another chapter in their story. Best wishes to all, A-M
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>alfredo3</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;One of my last email conversations with Katy-Sara, which she had started, was about the following problems that I express on the following link: &#60;a href=&#34;http://alfredo123.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/about-mental-health-stigma/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://alfredo123.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/about-mental-health-stigma/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We were talking about how helpful it is for celebrities to come out and disclose their mental illness. Yes, this is very helpful but not enough. And at the link I explain why, an argument with which Katy-Sara was in agreement with
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			<title>alfredo3 on "WRITERS THREAD"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I am fortunate to know two outstanding Shamans: Valda Wojcrow, who was born in Siberia and migrated to Australia; and Kalderini, an American Indian. These modern Shamans do not charge money for their services. They do it for love and because, in their own words, they were born to be Shamans. The fascinating thing is that Kalderini is a Catholic priest and a Shaman at the same time and according to him the two work well together. Shamans are not all the same. There are many varieties like Classical Shamanism and Core Shamanism. In addition, there are many dishonest Shamans and those who claim to be Shamans but are not. It is extremely complex to define Shamanism today. For these reasons I have decided to get to know two Shamans and let them speak about their unique experiences. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Valda has given me permission to write about her views and perspectives, while I am still waiting for Kalderini&#38;#39;s permission. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;According to Valda, we have to understand mental illness as a three dimensional concept (let&#38;#39;s picture a triangle): the biological aspect of it; the social/cultural aspect of it; and the psychological dimension. In the Western world we are doing OK in the biological department but, unfortunately, we are not doing well at all in the social/cultural and psychological dimensions. A good Shaman considers the three dimensions and works tirelessly to attend to these three forces equally, so that some harmony can be restored in the sufferers.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Whether we know it or not, our Western world is sick. We have some technology but what good is this technology, really speaking? Yes we have computers, mobile phones, cars and all of the technological luxuries, but these are not always used to advance our spiritual knowledge. In fact, much of this technology can be harmful to our younger generation stuck in front of a screen playing games and engaging in small and often useless talk that leads to problems. When we really think about it, our technology comes at a great cost; tremendous impact on the environment and on our spirit. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sufferers do watch the news, keep in touch with what is happening in the world and this, for people who suffer with bipolar or depression, is a heavy load to carry particularly for those of us who are intellectuals. As Stephen Fry writes: &#38;quot;Having a great intellect is no path to being happy.&#38;quot; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;To put it simply, take away our technology, we are really Neanderthals dressed in modern clothes. Spiritually, many of us are bankrupt and to live in the Western world as it is today one needs to be a little insane just to cope. How can we recover from mental illness under these circumstances? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We live in a world where there are many overwhelming problems created by greed, ignorance and lack of wisdom. We can medicate the biological dimension of mental illness but we are unable to attend to the social and psychological aspects of it. Hard to get better when our humanness is being extracted from us. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I will write more about Valda but for now her advice is that we need to attend to the three dimensions of mental illness. Is this possible in our society? For Vlada it is possible if we engage in a constructive debate about these problems and work towards a better future. Vision can help us, even if we cannot yet achieve this vision. But it is important to recognize this vision and hold it close to our hearts.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;To reduce mental illness and help sufferers, according to Valda, we need to reduce Stigma. Stigma has to do with both the social/cultural and psychological aspects of mental illness. Stigma is the most damaging force that needs to be eradicated. We can medicate people as much as we want but if we don&#38;#39;t get rid of stigma we will loose the battle against mental illness. It will keep on increasing yearly to the point that it will become the number one burden of disease. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Stigma makes people feel as if they don&#38;#39;t belong to the social world, disconnected from their people and themselves, almost as if enclosed in a vacuum. Our number one priority is to reduce stigma. How can we do this when stigma is increasing? That is the question, but we must not loose heart. We must work on our vision for where there is a will there is a way.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;According to Valda, the reason why some Shamans were so successful, in helping sufferers, was because there was no stigma in their cultures. Once you have no stigma, the sufferers has a chance to recover, to find the strength to at least learn how to cope. The biological aspect of mental illness will probably always be there, but the sufferer who finds him or herself in a stigma free society feels included, loved and cared for, and in this position s/he has all the will to get better. But in our society, all this support is missing and for many what is the point of getting better when we are left to deal with the stigma?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;According to Valda, doctors, psychologist and mental health professionals need to focus on stigma reduction. To this day, they have failed. They need to ask themselves why? What can they do to really help?  This is a question that is difficult to answer and that requires some vision and reflection. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Vision is the word that Valda kept repeating. We need vision in all senses of the word.
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