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tallyg


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Posted Mon Jan 25th, 2010 12:10am Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

This is just a general moan, completely self centred for which I apologise. I miss u all and I hope you're all ok, my twitter is completely broken so alas I have been incommunicado. I've tried to keep up with the posts but have failed miserably since my workload increased dramatically. So please forgive me for this self indulgent ramble.

But I just do it every time, it might be my BPD it might just be that I have THE worst taste in men. But yet again, I have fallen head over heels for a man with more baggage than Heathrow. Lets look at the checklist, depressed: tick, repressed: tick, emotionally unavailable: tick, mean to me (on occasions): tick, self absorbed: tick (though I don't like admitting that one cos he's really really lovely and I could just eat him sometimes, like when you see cute babies and you want to bite them, or is that just me). He ticks ALL the boxes in the "this-is-gonna-hurt" list yet I just think he's amazing and would quite happily punch someone in the face if they said or did anything that upset him. Its like I'm hard wired to choose men who are guaranteed to break my heart.

I'm having this weird splitting thing atm, I hate him then I love him, then I REALLY hate him, then I can't go on without him.

Its shit, I need to have functional relationships... which I have had the opportunity to have BUT NO tally's not interested in emotionally balanced, gorgeous, intelligent, sociable men. Just the sarcy, intelligent, fucked up variety.

I'm just so pissed off with myself, yet I feel so good when I'm around him.

I guess what I'm wanting to ask with this post, is:

Should I follow my heart or my head?

A-very-confused Tg x


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Tito


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Posted Mon Jan 25th, 2010 1:38pm Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

Oh dear, I wish I knew what to say to you.

'Love' is a right dastardly thing. It stops your brain functioning.

Although it's beneficial to other parts of the anatomy, I admit.

All I can do is send you good wishes and a hug,

Love T xxx

I've got a luverly bunch of coconuts-Aristotle

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crystalize


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Posted Mon Jan 25th, 2010 5:12pm Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

Hi tallyg,

I think definately you should go with you're head! I too insisted on only being interested in the wrong men until my mid thirties, so i understand how you feel. I think at the time perhaps i liked the idea of rescuing them, perhaps there was some exitement in all the ups and downs and passionate make ups, or maybe i wanted them to love me enough to quit behaving like twats.

Now i just think it was down to my low self esteem, and not demanding to be treated with respect and love. When i say demanding i don't mean jumping up and down and stamping my feet like a princess, i just mean not getting involved with them in the first place! Or getting rid of them the second my instincts started telling me it wasn't right.

AS to head versus heart...do you think it really is your heart? I'm not sure if i do now. Heart suggests being in love, but is it really love when we're so attracted to someone who treats us like crap? I'm more inclined to think its lust or infatuation or probably no doubt some crap to do with the love we did't feel from our Dads when we were kids.

Whatever, it sucks doesn't it poor thing!

C x


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Nitro


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Posted Tue Jan 26th, 2010 12:18am Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

Not trying to be cruel or dispassionate or unempathetic tally, but you are going to do when you do it when you want to do it and who you want to do it with and nothing anyone says is going to stop you. That's essentially what you said your post. No one can criticize him except you and no one can advise you either, because you are still, according to your own words, determined to rely on emotions as all the evidence you need to stick with someone who is obviously not good for you. I know I risk getting smacked for saying that, but hey, you asked lol

I would look backwards and figure out when and how you were taught that high drama, frustration, and playing the savior to someone in a relationship was proof of 'love'. And then realize you were taught wrong and do the opposite, even if it feels foreign at first ( and it will ). Why do you think you deserve to be hurt?

I agree with one of the other posters. It's something, but it's not 'love'. Not really. And there's little self-love as well, pardon my bluntness.

I used to have a quote by [name of a guy here]. Now I don't.

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tallyg


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Posted Tue Jan 26th, 2010 9:08pm Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

Thanks everyone,

Nitro you're bloody brutal but you're right.

And crystalize in my rational moments I know its not really love, you're right, but its more intense and more powerful than love, which makes it harder to realise it isn't love.

Any form of close relationship seems to make me ill again. I'm up and down and sideways and basically my moods are all over the place, I'm going from hating everyone to be really happy constantly. So I have spoken to uni, I've spoken to friends and I've bought myself some breathing space to get through this storm of emotions,I'm also making that guys life hell by being a complete bitch one moment then being really nice the next.

I would be lying if I said I'm not gonna have anything to do with him any more, but I'm distancing myself, at least until I get through this bumpy patch.I don't want to lose him completely, we were really good friends to begin with.


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marzgirl


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Posted Tue Jan 26th, 2010 11:22pm Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

No one is going to be perfect as we all know. For all of this person's faults, the good things might out weigh them.
When every past relationship has turned out bad, it is hard to shake that off and look at new relationships clearly and seperate from the previous.
My criteria before I married my husband was that he had to not only be good to me and for me, but also good for my son. If all of those answers would have been no, then I would have had to move on.

Good to hear from you Tg!!!! XXXXXX

"Needless to say I have some ununusual habits, yet all these socially acceptable people can't wait to pick up hammers and smash their food to bits. Normal people are so hostile."
--Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan

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Nitro


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Posted Wed Jan 27th, 2010 3:47am Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

tally, thanks for not being upset with me! I really was *not* trying to be brutal. My real concern underneath everything you said was that he could be cruel to you and I only wish for you to avoid being the target of cruelty.

Marz has a good point of dragging old baggage along into new relationships. It happens. It's not fair, but it happens. Probably the best you can do is recognize it and work at changing it.

There's an old saying I like: "I don't mind baggage, so long as it's MATCHING baggage!"

I hope this fellow recognizes you're worthy and deserving of his respect, just as a human being with feelings. There's no 'grade' on that ( e.g. 'you be nice, and then i MIGHT be nice' ). Add in that you are his girlfriend and lover, I would hope his consideration and compassion for you would escalate, not alternate

Hang in there tally, you'll be OK. Be confident in your own needs and wants, because they're as important as anyone else's and you have a right to them like anyone else.

I used to have a quote by [name of a guy here]. Now I don't.

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tallyg


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Posted Wed Jan 27th, 2010 11:54am Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

Thanks guys,

Nitro, I think one of the main problems was I never know what I am to him, atm we're friends with (and I quote) " nothing that shares bodily fluids", yes he's that romantic lol, I guess it serves me right for trying to engage him in a conversation about things that involve feelings. For all I know the rules may have changed by next week.

He is cruel but I don't think he means it, he's just trying to survive. I guess that's why I'm sticking around, I know what it feels like to be depressed and to accidentally hurt others. Behind it all there's a really good guy, I don't mind losing the " bodily fluid sharing" but I really don't ever want to lose him as a friend cos he truly 'gets' me.

One of my friends said to me the other day, while I was crying on their shoulder, that we make a really good double act, the way our personalities work off each other is appealing to be around. Then I realised we're Jay and Silent Bob.

Marz I do think his good points out weigh his faults, its just atm he's completely buried all his good points.

I dunno, I guess I'll just bumble long as usual and see what happens, though my rapid mood swings are pushing our already shaky relationship to its limits but seem to be getting back on top of them again.

Righty ho best go do some research, doing a project on Conficker, that is worth 75% of my mark this term. Trying to get my priorities right, kids, uni, then Mr Grumpy Pants.

Thanks again guys

Tg


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michael


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Posted Wed Jan 27th, 2010 5:48pm Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

Nitro said:

Marz has a good point of dragging old baggage along into new relationships. It happens. It's not fair, but it happens. Probably the best you can do is recognize it and work at changing it.

There's an old saying I like: "I don't mind baggage, so long as it's MATCHING baggage!"

HAHAHA!! i like that.

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i had this dream once: i was living with my ex, (not dating her, but roommates & practically married) and dating my current girlfriend! my new girlfriend was her usual wonderful fun self, but i was so busy trying to keep my ex, who i "lived" with happy, that i was stressed out.

now that was just too obvious to need a dream interpreter!!

anyways, i have no advice... just wanted to say, i hope whoever you are with in the future that they are nice to you!

"HELLO I'M TACTILE !" is an anagram of my name

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marzgirl


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Posted Thu Jan 28th, 2010 11:17pm Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

This was on the radio this morning and I thought it was fitting here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsnfF48c73c

"Needless to say I have some ununusual habits, yet all these socially acceptable people can't wait to pick up hammers and smash their food to bits. Normal people are so hostile."
--Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan

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tallyg


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Posted Mon Feb 1st, 2010 6:37pm Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

Hello folks, this will be a ramble....

People, I love people, they surprise you.

Derren, not his real name, surprised me, he gave me cuppa soups.

That sounds utterly bizarre but for someone who refuses to show any sign of emotion or sympathy or empathy, to give me 2 cuppa soups and utter the sentence "Here's two hugs-in-a-mug and here's one from me" followed by a cuddle, well it completely knocked me for six tbh.

That tiny hint of compassion was enough for me to be ok with being his mate, obviously he's gone back to being completely emotionally switched off from the world now and barely even acknowledges the fact you exist sometimes but that's ok, cos that's him and I like him.

So yeah, emotional turmoil over, back to plain old boring, steady Nat.


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marzgirl


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Posted Thu Feb 4th, 2010 10:51pm Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

This has nothing to do with your subject. I just got caught up on the Australian Open last night. Damn it I wanted Andy to win soooo bad!!! During the third set tie break (18 min) I ate at least 10 hobnobs!!!

Broke my heart when he spoke during the award ceremony. When Federer spoke I could not tell if Andy was still fighting tears or fighting the urge to punch Federer in the head. Perhaps both!

Go get the next one Andy!!!

"Needless to say I have some ununusual habits, yet all these socially acceptable people can't wait to pick up hammers and smash their food to bits. Normal people are so hostile."
--Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan

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tallyg


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Posted Fri Feb 5th, 2010 9:47am Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

I know, bless. They actually ran a story on the news about Andy Murray crying and seeing if people's perception of him had changed. He's not very popular in the UK, probably cos he wins, we like them to be gentleman but ultimately lose every single time.

I'm sure he'll do it next time, I think he's gonna get a grand slam soon.

Come on Andy!!!!!


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marzgirl


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Posted Fri Feb 5th, 2010 5:51pm Post subject: BPD and relationships aka how to fall for the wrong guy every time.

Yeah, he was crying a bit. He apologized for not being able to bring home the title. I think he wants it more for Dunblane and feels like he let them all down. He said Now I can cry like Roger, if only I could play like him. No quote marks because I am not sure if that is exactly right, but the jist anyway.

No one really liked him here in the States either. I think he has tried to show a bit of his less serious side and his humor, and we like him more than we did 2-3 years ago. Getting his haircut helped too.

"Needless to say I have some ununusual habits, yet all these socially acceptable people can't wait to pick up hammers and smash their food to bits. Normal people are so hostile."
--Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan

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