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PC Caliban


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Posted Fri Aug 12th, 2011 10:01am Post subject: By the Pricking of My Thumbs, Something Wicked This Way Comes

It is on its way, Censorship. For the price of an i-pod or a flat screen, alcohol and a designer rag which will be out of the LATEST next week the Government and the Police will be able to demand restrictions on what people can say on line.

Amusing in one way, it is the mirror image of what happened in Egypt, they wanted more freedom to express themselves on the internet and in this Country due to an understandable knee jerk reaction the Public without thinking it out will lap up all the demands to censor the internet and magic black box of berries. Human Rights are also going to be a target.


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Nitro


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Posted Sat Aug 13th, 2011 4:17am Post subject: By the Pricking of My Thumbs, Something Wicked This Way Comes

It's a prime opp for religious fundamentalists of any flavor to insert themselves and convert. Same for the political fundies.

Mr.Fry tweeted about an article (yes, I actually read a tweet...get over it lol ) about this topic. The writers headspace was pretty much cmopare/contrast all the way through. And these statements rang most true to me, though I don't live in the UK.

"I know that he employs expensive tax lawyers and that everything he does is legal, but he surely faces ethical and moral questions just as much as does a young thug who breaks into one of Sir Philip’s shops and steals from it?"

"I find it very hard to make any kind of ethical distinction between Blears’s expense cheating and tax avoidance, and the straight robbery carried out by the looters."

"The Prime Minister excused his wretched judgment by proclaiming that “everybody deserves a second chance”. It was very telling yesterday that he did not talk of second chances as he pledged exemplary punishment for the rioters and looters."

I think a dose of Buddy Guy and Junior Wells is in order for me right now...

I'm not sure why so many people insist on clinging to a sleepy, sugar poisoned version of reality so much of the time; who seem fearful of debate ( is it because they fear their own feelings?? ); and who so need the simplest of answers, or at least need to believe in them.

I'd rather say what I think and be proved wrong than stay silent because I might be.

What do YOU think PC? Why do you think people seem willing to accept the excuses of bankers who squander or fiddle expense accounts for years and when caught, are virtually unapologetic? And when a teenage kid is caught, wish to string him from a flagpole?

Is it because it's easier to catch and string up the poor?

A dog can be beat and it will come back and be nice to its abuser. Their sweetness and loyalty are known in advance by the abuser. Is it what makes the dog beatable?

Really? Wow.

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schildpad


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Posted Tue Aug 16th, 2011 10:01pm Post subject: By the Pricking of My Thumbs, Something Wicked This Way Comes

I'm not from the UK (I live just across the Channel) but I found the government's reaction odd. I mean, wasn't everyone congratulating people in Egypt and elsewhere for making use of social networking sites to organize themselves and boo'ing the officials who tried to shut them down or limit access to them? Now, the situations may not be entirely comparable (although, I would say that social and political discontent/disaffection have more to do with the riots than Cameron would like to believe) but it does seem a bit hypocritical for him to be taking this stance. The apparent attack on the Human Rights Act is also quite opportunistic and rather distasteful.

I think you had better put the Indians on wheels so that you can run them about as you wish. Anon - Chief (1876)

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Nitro


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Posted Sun Aug 21st, 2011 3:55pm Post subject: By the Pricking of My Thumbs, Something Wicked This Way Comes

I think it's because FB was used to organize political revolts...I don't recall any shops being broken into...but they may wind up with far more severe problems down the road...things are not nearly as socially liberal over there, and won't be for a long time, as people over here would like to believe...and we've really gotten into the details of x,y, and z in their cultures via the news...so more sympathies generated....

That's the quagmire of this all...we look over there and decide that's good stuff going on...on the surface, sure it is...but we don't really know what's coming in its wake...sometimes chaos for long periods results in a backlash of uber-conservatism

With the kids in the riots...there's no sympathy, it's all judgement, and right out of the gate...you shall pay, you shall pay, you shall pay...it's the right thing to do is to stuff them away in prison for years...but there's complexity to poverty...if it WERE simple, it would be GONE...it serves no one, not really, in any society for there to be suffering, i mean whole segments of a city, to be suffering in every way...in education, in jobs, in health, in economics....it's useless and this is always born out...

but we like to ignore History i think...maybe it's more fun to...

Really? Wow.

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