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Maniac


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Posted Sat Sep 15th, 2007 11:22am Post subject: Could do with that button.
For many years now I have had swings of mood and temperament which have often left me feeling ‘different’ both within myself and outwardly towards other people and things. Perception changes and impacts on behaviour and feelings, and have skewed many a situation.

I have a wonderful group of friends who see past the issues I sometimes display and who offer tremendous support, camaraderie and advice and accept the same from me.
I have never understood why I have friends or why people will go out of their way to help me and have always put it down to them being nice people. I will do anything for the people I care for even at the detriment of myself and have wonderful references from bosses and managers and have been very fortunate in my life.

I have a good job and am regarded highly within the circles of my profession. I am respected by colleagues and clients and part of me believes I do a good job.

I also see in myself a horrible, miserable, moody, sharp, curt, evil, selfish, ugly human being who is worth nothing. Not worth your reading this message or even clicking the link to the thread. I see myself as a waste of space and air and will often think about what death would be like; how much better the world would be without me.

I spent yesterday on cloud nine following a very successful morning in difficult circumstances and ended my day sat right here ( as I do too often) reading websites and getting annoyed at news stories, threads on message boards, so trivial I could scream, and at my inward agitation and energy combined.

I was not actually reading what I was looking at: I was skimming and reorganising words and phrases inside my head into weird and wonderful (sic) orders and coming up with scenarios that obviously did not really exist.

The online world is faceless, emotionless and often contrived – like this message must seem.
People are your friend but not really.
Some people really do feel like friends and I have many people online that I consider my friends, would love to meet and miss when they are not around.

I hate it when people are nice for the sake of nice which is what I think might have caused me to be extra nasty in my posts recently. I am not saying the thread I posted on was one of those but we tread on egg shells when we think we should, when sometimes it is best not to post at all.
People often do not say what they mean unless it is in defence and when we do say what we mean -when it is opposing another, it is often taken badly. Emotion doesn’t come across well, or it comes across too strong. Anger is always communicated well but compassion not so.

Last night I posted some things that I truly believed to be true but which were obviously misguided and hurtful. For this I would like to apologise to Red Raven and I truly hope I have not been the cause of someone leaving an online community.

I will be the one to retreat and leave space for more civil conversation and debate – this is only fair.
I do not expect or desire any replies to this thread and will not be looking back to check anyway.
If there is anyone who would like to remain in contact with me then PMs will get to me via email notifications – that is, assuming I am still on the member list – and we can exchange email addresses.

I do not want sympathy or forgiveness. I am not worthy of that but I do hope that apologies can be accepted especially by Raven and Tracy, Banjo and Saturn and others whom I have a lot of respect for.
I believe we often think along the same lines and am sorry I have let you all down.

I’ve let myself down but have done this all my life. Some of us are born wasters and will continue to be until we are freed from this.
I realise that there are many of you on this site going through an awful lot more than I ever have or ever will and for this reason I feel even more ashamed. I genuinely hope things work out for the best for you all as depression and MD have the potential to destroy lives, friendships and parts of communities – as I’ve managed to do this weekend.

Please do not waste your precious time and energy berating me – I will not see it – but please use it to continue your talents, your caring natures and humour that has made this site what it is. (in the main)

Again I am sorry.

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Fourth Feline


Member

Posted Sat Sep 15th, 2007 1:09pm Post subject: Could do with that button.
Hiya Maniac,

I have not been 'involved' with the exchanges you wrote about, but read your self correction with a large degree of recognition of things I have been very close to doing myself , both as a human being - and as a Bi-Polar human being.

We all screw up somewhere down the line, but not all 'fess up like you have just done.

Take the weight of your shoulders, learn from the past - and move on. I am sure the people you mentioned are humane enough to realise that you may have "gone off on one" - fuelled by your genuine belief that the words you typed where true at the time. (as we all have the potential to do ).

For example, I used to find a certain member's postings ( not yours ) rather irksome at first, but later they came back with a more equitable attitude and actually gave really helpful and accurate advice.

Forgive and take care of yourself Maniac - and let's look forward to this temporary hiccup passing over.

Regards,

F.F.

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Anonymous


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Posted Sat Sep 15th, 2007 3:33pm Post subject: Could do with that button.
Oh Maniac, please let us not try and place ourselves above or below others in importance. We are all here trying to help and be helped in return. We do care about you and even those who are hurt know that there is a 'you' and 'another you'.
Don't go.

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Anonymous


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Posted Sat Sep 15th, 2007 4:05pm Post subject: Could do with that button.
Everything must change.

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amyl_nitrate


Member

Posted Sat Sep 15th, 2007 5:46pm Post subject: Could do with that button.
We all make mistakes. Nobody is perfect and we all cock up now and again. These things happen. If we're feeling shitty or tired or stressed or pissed off with something some of us take it on those we love or people online. I've done it myself. Said thing that to others seemed harsh, cold and even brusque whether I meant it to or not. Then it tears me up the next day when I realise what I've done and then I apologise. That's a very hard thing to do. Not everyone does it. You have and that is appreciated by us. Don't feel you have to leave. No one wants you to.

Assuming direct control...

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tracy8673


Member

Posted Sat Sep 15th, 2007 8:26pm Post subject: Could do with that button.
Oh, Maniac!

I do not see you at all in the way you describe yourself, but funnily enough, it is how I see myself sometimes...

I knew you weren't feeling right last night. I hope you feel better soon and bring back the Maniac I know and care about.

Tracy xx

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tracy8673


Member

Posted Sat Sep 15th, 2007 8:27pm Post subject: Could do with that button.
Oh, Maniac!

I do not see you at all in the way you describe yourself, but funnily enough, it is how I see myself sometimes...

I knew you weren't feeling right last night. I hope you feel better soon and bring back the Maniac I know and care about.

Tracy xx

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ruthy


Member

Posted Sun Sep 16th, 2007 10:56pm Post subject: Could do with that button.

Please do not waste your precious time and energy berating me – I will not see it – but please use it to continue your talents, your caring natures and humour that has made this site what it is. (in the main)

Again I am sorry.
I hope this isn't true I don't want to lose you! :'(
We all have bad days but that shouldn't make you leave.
Give yourself a little time and be kind to yourself but please don't go!

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Anonymous


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Posted Mon Sep 17th, 2007 12:03am Post subject: Could do with that button.
Tonight I walked the five minute walk to my local shop, bought a packet of cigarettes and on the wya home stopped a woman throwing herself in front of a car. I ended up talking to the woman, walked around with her, went back to her place and got someone to stay with her. All in all, I spent around about an hour and a half tlaking to a depressed woman who was still in the pits of despair after her husband walked out on her nearly two years ago.

Why do it? I just felt I had to do it. No rewards, no need to be the saviour.

That's what peopel do. Madame, you don't need to know why your friends go out of their way for you or why they like you. Just accept that they are friends and that is what friends do. You sound in such a state of self-loathing right now.
I know what you mean about the online world. Perhaps we are not friends in the classical sense but there is a sense of comradeship, a mutual understanding of the issues that affect us and a camaraderie. I've seen it on eating disorder forums and I see it here. It's not about self-destruction, it's about people empathising with each other.

There's also the other side. When you put people with difficult conditions in the same place, sometimes those conditions will play up and problems will occur. The trick is to try and control their impact and to control how great they influence your words.

Maniac, your words were hurtful but someone who was an evil fucker wouldn't apologise. Everyone here sees the genuine attempt at making an apology and taking ownership for what you said. You don't have to go down the path of saying your problems don't matter, there's others worse than you and all the other wiffly nonsense people come out with and I've come out with myself at times. Make peace with Red Raven and make peace with yourself.

So I'm not berating you but I will offer to lightly ruffle your hair using a stick of celery.

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Red Raven


Member

Posted Mon Sep 17th, 2007 1:36am Post subject: Could do with that button.
Maniac,

You shouldn't leave over this. In the grand scheme of things this is peanuts.

All of us have bad days and all of us have horrible days, it's something we all live with whether it's a chemical imbalance or not. My father is perfectly sane but I just got done listening to him unload everything that's been driving him mad for the past few months. You shouldn't feel bad about it, all is forgiven and I hope that you come back because I really enjoyed your posts.

At the time it just came as a shock more than anything. I wasn't expecting it at all and to be honest even while it was happening I couldn't believe my eyes. It's just not worth all this drama, I have no hard feelings toward you, I'm not angry or upset in the least. I just hope that you aren't and we can make up when you're ready for it. When I say make up, don't think that I expect an apology, I just want you to come back. Everyone would miss you, I'm new and I can see that.

I'm not good with words or eloquent at all but I hope that when you read this you see my sincerity.

Take care of yourself and when you're ready, we'll all still be here ready to welcome you back.

Raven

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