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Desdemona

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Posted Tue Jan 26th, 2010 2:13am Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
Hello my darlinga,
I don't mean to be insensitive, or pry in any way, But i was wonder if you could help me.
I'm doing a play called 4.48 phycosis by Sarah Kane, a brilliant writer who unfortunatly killed herself after writing it due to sever depression.
I want to know what she felt and what kind of mind set she was in due to the illness, so i was wondering because your all kind and wonderfull if you could help me out with this please?
Maybe by posting some experiances you or someone else has had, feelings and so on.
If you could help i would very much appreciate it.
Thankyou.
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Nitro

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Posted Tue Jan 26th, 2010 5:40am Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
Do they get free tickets to the play when it comes out?
Seems a legitimate compensation for those willing to help you get your work done.
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michael

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Posted Tue Jan 26th, 2010 4:48pm Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
hmm before saying anything about my own experiences, i'll try and learn a little more about the play...or, can you tell us a little more about it? what types of info would help?
there's a great book called "the day the voices stopped" by ... ken steele that you could flip through, too. it's an autobiography and he's not a writer by trade, so it's pretty straightforward narrative. anyways, he has schizophrenia... and there's several places in it where he describes being suicidal, but it's different from the usual suicide-awareness info. for him it was very much due to psychosis wearing him down. (which i can relate to...) at one point you just think "geezuss he must be so damn exhausted!"
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Desdemona

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Posted Tue Jan 26th, 2010 7:27pm Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
Uh sure you can come and see the public performance, Its only half an hour long and A level standard.. O__o but if you would like to travel to alcester to see it be my guest, i'm not sure what the teachers would say about not paying though ...
If i give you a couple of paragraphs from the play would that be okay?
[you knwo this is really hard to do O__o]
'At 4.48
when despiration visets
I shall hang myself
to the sound of my lovers breathing
I do not want to die
I have become so depressed by the factof my mortality that i
have decided to commit suicide
I do not want to live
I am jelouse of my sleeping lover and covet his induced
unconsciousness
when he wakes he will envy my sleepless night of thought and speech unslurred by medication
I have resigned myself to death this year'
I kind of want to know what she would have been through, Anything really that could help develope the character.
Thankyou. [=
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katysara

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Posted Tue Jan 26th, 2010 9:42pm Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
A good book that is very teeny if you want to understand more about depression is called DARKNESS VISIBLE BY WILLIAM STYRON. Took me half an hour to read but totally nails it.
I've read 4:48 PSYCHOSIS (be careful with your spelling there) so I am familiar with the piece. Everything you really need to know is in the text, helped by that book I described. You need to put in the reading time. If you do that I'll answer any questions you have.
Oh and know that Kane did not die as she finished the book as so many would have us believe, on an OD of lofepramine. She died 2 days later in a psych hospital by hanging herself.
Disturbing at times, what I know,
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Desdemona

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Posted Wed Jan 27th, 2010 7:06pm Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
katysara Thanks so much darling. [I know my spelling is awfull, i didn't take english for a reason ;)]
the text is pretty good for explaining the emotions and things, I kinda wanted to build a back story for the character. So things like the first diagnosis and things like does depression come in episodes or its it constant? I know bipolar is eposodic, is depression the same?
Thanks very much.
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katysara

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Posted Thu Jan 28th, 2010 1:14pm Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
It depends on the type of depression. Some people only have one episode and then it is called major depression (they are too ill to work etc). If they keep having these major depression episodes then it is called unipolar depression, and yes, it comes and goes like in bipolar disorder. But there is also an illness called dysthymia where a person is almost constantly depressed, but only mildly, not enough to stop them getting on with their lives.
For most people unipolar depression is the case. But you have to remember each case is different. Some people might be ok most of the time, some people may spend the majority of their time depressed, it varies person to person.
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Telepresent

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Posted Fri Jan 29th, 2010 1:51am Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
Desdemona,
Just a thought - I'm not only someone who has gone through suicidal depression, but also rather knowledgeable in the world of theatre (officially I am a Master of Drama, no less!) - I would be happy to talk to you not only about depression, but how you might think about portraying it on stage without it becoming clichéd, hammed up or 'wangsty'.
Let me know if you're interested.
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judasishmael

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Posted Sat Feb 13th, 2010 3:21pm Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
Suicide, in my case, is something that I do not wish to do. However, when the noise comes, I cannot help but picture a gun against my temple, a bullet penetrating my brain, because that is where the noise is. I think it would be so much easier to breathe and open my eyes if I could just kill the pain and the static and the noise that drowns out everything rational. Sometimes I imagine downing a bottle a sleeping pills because the noise keeps me awake. Sometimes I do just want to die. I can't hear the good thoughts anymore when it gets too loud. Killing myself would not be something culminated from years of depression...it would be sudden...not a decision, but a sudden act precursered by a seemingly endless session of the deepest despair. Nothing was ever good and nothing will ever get better. I KNOW this. What I feel right now will never end unless I kill the noise. It's so loud. I can feel it reverberate through my whole body. My head is killing me. Please just make it stop. I just want this to stop. A simple movement of my index finger on a trigger could end it all. It would be so simple. I don't care if there's an afterlife. I'm already in hell. I'm not even thinking about the people who will hurt if I kill myself because I can barely see there faces through the pain. It would be so easy. I could just end this right now. No more pain. It would be quiet. I just want it to be quiet. I just want it all to be still. It's not even a question any more of whether or not I want to die. I just want the pain to stop. Please, I just want it to stop.
That's how I felt when I was suicidal. If it helps, prop wise I guess, I have journals that are interspersed with such writings where the letters getter bigger and bigger until I can only fit a few words on a page. Sometimes the pen was dragged through the page. I wanted to say something, but all I could feel was wordless and raging.
Why didn't I kill myself? Sometimes, I don't know. I didn't have gun or sleeping pills? Hanging just seems like it would have taken more preparation than I had the energy for. I could always just fall asleep in the car where it was cold. Away from anyone. I could take comfort in the distraction of discomfort. And maybe even freeze to death.
Mostly what went through my mind were lound, repetitive non-thoughts. Always about the pain and the noise. It was always loud.
I've heard there are many people who plan there suicide and are even more at peace and almost happy in the preceding days. I never wanted to be suicidal. It's horrifying. ...I just wanted it to stop. I use to sob, beg it to stop out loud. "Please stop...please stop," while I held my head together in my hands because I knwew it was coming apart. It was horrifying.
I hope this helps. Suicide is so often call a selfish act and, while it may seem like it is the those left in the wake, it's not like someone said, "Hey, I guess I don't care about the poeple who love me, so I'm just going to off myself for some pithy reason. No. Suicide, at least as far as I can tell, is an act of desperation.
The "flaws" that move us to hurt move us also to share our pain with others, thereby making others feel less alone and, thereby, becoming a vital link in a chain reaction of, subtle though it may seem, healing.
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katysara

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Posted Sat Feb 13th, 2010 8:26pm Post subject: Drama help? 4.48 phycosis
Wow, powerfully written and totally agreed with.
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