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gadgetgirl


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Posted Fri Nov 7th, 2008 6:58pm Post subject: Episode 4
What exactly is Granola? Is it what we (UK) think of as Muesli? I thought the hippies singing and Stephens reaction was very funny myself I couldn't live underground, I need my sunlight.

That would be me.

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michael


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Posted Fri Nov 7th, 2008 7:08pm Post subject: Episode 4
i like flutes better when there's snare drums and muskets, too.

reminds me last night i drew american revolutionary minutemen dressed as ninjas. that was fun.

"HELLO I'M TACTILE !" is an anagram of my name

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Nitro


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Posted Fri Nov 7th, 2008 10:57pm Post subject: Episode 4
aww...bunker hippies are fun. in the scheme of things there would be several worse people to spend time with. plus granola is yum.

No offense ES, but you have very clearly lost your mind. Please escort yourself to the nearest pub and drink yourself back to reason. X-D

Really? Wow.

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dulieGirl


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Posted Fri Nov 7th, 2008 11:25pm Post subject: Episode 4
What exactly is Granola? Is it what we (UK) think of as Muesli? I thought the hippies singing and Stephens reaction was very funny myself I couldn't live underground, I need my sunlight.
Eeeeeyyyaaaa kind of like Muesli. It really depends on what you get. But I'd say it would be the US version of Muesli without getting too deep into it.

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gjhsu


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Posted Sat Nov 8th, 2008 1:26am Post subject: Episode 4
I think Muesli is what we would call Trail Mix (which may or may not have granola in it). I see granola as the human version of horse feed

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IdeaCollector


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Posted Sat Nov 8th, 2008 4:00am Post subject: Episode 4


No offense ES, but you have very clearly lost your mind. Please escort yourself to the nearest pub and drink yourself back to reason. X-D


I don't drink

I'm a bit of a hippy myself except I used to plan on living in my van. Broke down before that happened and a honda accord isn't nearly as spacious.

But I do like granola, organic foods and am anti-war...very peacenik on the whole.

Ooo and tie die is fun even without the LSD...kinda like a straight edge hippy of sorts.

I used to be EternalStudent on these forums until the switch over. So don't get excited..I'm not someone new and exciting. I'm just me :P

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Nitro


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Posted Sat Nov 8th, 2008 4:51am Post subject: Episode 4
ES, you're hopeless. Utterly, fantastically hopeless. X-D

I'm not sure which is worse: the fact that you don't drink or that you are even a little bit turned on by tie-dye clothing.

Probably the latter. X-D

Really? Wow.

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IdeaCollector


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Posted Sat Nov 8th, 2008 5:02am Post subject: Episode 4
ES, you're hopeless. Utterly, fantastically hopeless. X-D

I'm not sure which is worse: the fact that you don't drink or that you are even a little bit turned on by tie-dye clothing.

Probably the latter. X-D

What....bright colors make me happy *shrugs*

I used to be EternalStudent on these forums until the switch over. So don't get excited..I'm not someone new and exciting. I'm just me :P

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Celina O.


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Posted Tue Nov 11th, 2008 10:10am Post subject: Episode 4
EL PASO!!!!

wow!!!!!


he came HERE and i didn't know anything about it until just today......damn.
I'm so glad to see so many Texans on this board.

haha, yeah it's kind of cool that Fry fans are far and wide. (well deserved, Stephen).

i've watched the episode, and i have to say that El Paso wasn't really represented as much as our border with Mexico was. looks like it's just a fence here, but it's a big city with a lot of culture that i don't feel was shown.

but then again, it'd be impossible to really show off any city to its full potential and only use that much time

i applaud Stephen anyway, he let people know we exist haha.

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amyl_nitrate


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Posted Sun Nov 16th, 2008 11:54am Post subject: Episode 4
Short of writing notes while watching it, my favourite parts this week have to be, firstly, the german cafe, lol. Oh the punishment of the stomach! I couldn't help but think, while they were discussing the diet of the people who lived there, that they seemed to have kept the traditions they liked: i.e. the food but not the work - the size of the portions there! Lol at the burger in batter. Just love Stephen's reaction to it all.

That bit was great. I loved how he'd finished all his courses and the waitress asked him if he wanted anything else so he asked for pie and then was like oh noes why have I ordered more food!? ....and he was drinking a huge ass milkshake too! Join the dark side Stephen you know you love milkshakes!

The landscapes are just amazing. The conversation with the guy (this isn't sounding very technical, is it?) about global warming and how fast such a beautiful mark of nature might slide away from us was just frightening. How white everything seemed to be, the clouds in the sky and their reflections in the water, next to the mountains...Beautiful, but it is frightening how much damage we are doing to it. I guess 'each man kills the thing he loves'.

It's scary how much damage we're doing to the environment. I hate thinking about how much we may lose over the course of this century. How many species and landscapes will be lost forever? :'(

I laughed heartily when Stephen had a good ol' sneaky gawp at the belly dancer's cleavage. Just as she was standing up from the table, his eyes couldn't help themselves. Was it merely instinctive behaviour, regardless of sexual orientation or was he thinking "hmn.. lunch" ? LOL That was superb.


Who knows? In some interviews Stephen Fry has described himself as three quarters homosexual (Emma Thompson has said the same thing about him) which would if we were to enter the scary and unplesant world of labels would mean he's trisexual. Personally I believe sexuality is fluid and don't agree with boxing ourselves into a category. Why do we have to? This is why I'm opposed to things like sexuality tests.

The only bad bit was the picture of the dead dog :'( .

That bit was sad. I didn't like seeing all the dogs ripped up. The picture of the bear in the stables was amazing. Makes you relaise how big they are. How scary must that be waking up to find one of those waiting for you?


It is so hard to comprehend borders like that with the mexicans. I suppose that with water all around us, it is a strange concept.

I remember when they were building the channel Tunnel, and everyone was saying that they were concerned because it meant we were connected to Europe. LOL

I don't know if I'd be disappointing or reasurring you, but I don't live on an Island and I still found that bit breathtakingly painful. It just feels nearly Kafkaesque in its absurdity and arbitrariness. We homo sapiens have made a right mess of things, haven't we?

Yes we have. I've always dreamed that one day we'll live in a world without borders. It seems almost impossible sometimes though.


Oooh! And I nearly forgot! The Trucker's shop!! I fell about the floor laughing my head off, that was simply classic! Aah dear. X-D


Haha, me too! I was literally crying with laughter when he was looking at the mattress thing for truckers and the thumbs up advertisements - I kept thinking about it throughout today and it was making me giggle (I feel that in the future if people ask the question "How are you?" I won't be able to resist replying with a cheery "Well, I feel about as happy as an American truck-driver who has just purchased a new mattress pad for comfort whilst sleeping.... etc" with accompanying thumbs-up X-D Something about it was so ridiculous as to be entirely ace.) There was something so brilliantly fabulous about the whole episode - the cafe bit was hilarious too.

The truckers section was one of my favourite parts of the episode! I love trucks. I had no idea they had shops like that catering specifically to truckers. I'd wanna poke around there too.

I just really, really love the whole series. OH! and when he was at the missile camp thing and the people starting singing and playing guitar. Mr. Fry looked genuinely scared, really. I'd be worried too. X-D

The editing in that sequence just added to it. It made it look like Stephen was proper freaking out.

Diod Aspen the same way I do, pretty cafe no skiing.

I'd be the same. I'm happy curling up with a book and a lovely hot drink. I've never been interested in things like beach or adventure holidays.

Truck Stop Stephen was hilarious. It cracked me up when he found the truck balls. For anyone who doesn't know, some...people...put those on the back of their trucks. You hang them off the back bumper between the back tires so that the truck looks like it has balls. Stupid.

Seriously?! X-D X-D X-D

But how cute was Cowboy Hat Stephen? Adorably cute!

I know, so cute! *squees*

I loved watching Stephen drive around on the beach! He reminded me so of a school boy i an amusement park.

He looked so happy like he was having the time of his life. Very cute.

I remember driving Route 66 with my family when i was a kid and recall vividly seeing a restaurant with a big neon sign. EAT GAS. No name, just EAT GAS..
Hilarious. X-D

X-D X-D

What exactly is Granola? Is it what we (UK) think of as Muesli? I thought the hippies singing and Stephens reaction was very funny myself I couldn't live underground, I need my sunlight.

I'm the same I couldn't live underground. I need fresh air and sunlight! ^_^




I don't drink

Ooo and tie die is fun even without the LSD...kinda like a straight edge hippy of sorts.

I like tie-dye too and don't drink either. Great minds think alike eh EternalStudent?

Assuming direct control...

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Soph


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Posted Sun Nov 16th, 2008 6:28pm Post subject: Episode 4
Had to be done.


Sorry for quoting a few pages back but LMFAO.

I instantly thought Brokeback Mountain when I saw that on SFiA. He'd make a damn fine cowboy.

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IdeaCollector


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Posted Mon Nov 17th, 2008 12:34am Post subject: Episode 4
Amyl yes indeed the truckers do hang them from the trailer hitch. Saw it and though gosh my brother would love something that tacky for his car.

Also...yes great minds do think alike

I used to be EternalStudent on these forums until the switch over. So don't get excited..I'm not someone new and exciting. I'm just me :P

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amyl_nitrate


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Posted Tue Nov 18th, 2008 5:14pm Post subject: Episode 4
Amyl yes indeed the truckers do hang them from the trailer hitch. Saw it and though gosh my brother would love something that tacky for his car.

Also...yes great minds do think alike

Yay. *squooshyglomp*

Tacky is indeed the word.

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ysabella


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Posted Tue Nov 18th, 2008 9:37pm Post subject: Episode 4
Someone in the other thread I mentioned, referenced the Netherlands, and how it was found that cows accounted for more emissions, and that efforts to decrease other emissions had proved fruitless, she claimed, because cows were actually the real culprits. Googling for studies and other info on the Netherlands does show that agriculture does lead to emissions, but those emissions were primarily nitrogen, much of which is naturally occuring, and is also caused by rotting and breaking down plant matter, including in the woodlands. The real high emissions numbers were industrial, and they include extremely polluting and toxic emissions. It's not cows.

Yeah, sorry, I couldn't remember the details so I wrote something really vague. The problem they were addressing was acid rain, so they cut way way down on emissions of sulfur dioxide, from cars and industry, at a massive cost. Which didn't improve the acid rain at all. Eventually they figured out that the problem was methane, from pig shit.

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ysabella


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Posted Tue Nov 18th, 2008 10:09pm Post subject: Episode 4
I really enjoyed this episode, but I feel that the ranch family living out there in Wyoming didn't prove that it was actually wolves attacking their pets and livestock. There are other predators, like coyotes - and coyotes howl, too. Coyotes are many times more likely to kill livestock than wolves are - like 20 times more likely, using other states' numbers. Coyotes also tend to leave really messy, barely-eaten remains around, where wolves will eat practically everything, bones and all. If a pack of wolves falls on an animal, almost nothing will be left.
Besides coyotes you have bears (grizzlies and black bears), cougars, lynxes, fishers, and wolverines. Any of those could do that kind of damage. Even a smaller marten (like a small fisher, or a big weasel) might kill a dog. Fishers usually eat porcupines, but they could attack smaller animals. Bears and the cats, well, yes. They will snatch calves, kill dogs, etc.
The wolves could still be indirectly causing the problem though. Wolves will reduce the deer population, and then maybe the coyotes and other predators have less to eat and so on. But wolves quite rarely attack livestock - wolves that have been raised to be released in the wild are never fed beef or chicken or any ranch animal, so they don't have a taste for it. Wolves do kill dogs, but it's highly unlikely right by the house like that - it would be if the dogs got lost out in the wolves' territory.

Ranchers get paid restitution from some non-governmental wolf programs if their livestock is killed by wolves. But they don't get anything that I know of if the livestock is killed by coyotes or other predators. And also, most people can't really tell the difference between wolves and coyotes. I don't think I could, in the snow at a distance.

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