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Vespertine


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Posted Mon May 14th, 2007 5:08pm Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
First things first. Greetings to everyone here. It's wonderful to be among you.

I have been quite down in my life. And at times suicidal. There are a few people who have made me see the world more clearly. Made me realise that I'm not alone. But when the demons come, there's no lonelier feeling.

Stephen Fry has been a huge inspiration to me. Not only artistically but mentally. I identify with a lot of the same hobbies as him. And I can imagine how he feels at times.

I don't want to whine on for too long so I will basically tell you my RECENT story. Very briefly.

It's been a difficult time for me recently. I was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and Cyclothymia (which is a mild form of Bipolar Disorder type 2)
The damn psychiatrist lied to me. He said I wasn't bipolar in any sense...but then went on to say that I have BPD and cyclothymia. I've just read up on cyclothymia and it's the mild form of bipolar. So why did he tell me that? He also said that I wasn't 'mentally ill' even though both of those disorders are classed as mental illness and are protected in the workplace disability act albeit very recently.
I'm so pissed right now I can't see straight (excuse the pun)!!
I understand he thought that it may have affected my recovery in telling me but....it's just wrong! I'm losing my faith in professionals!

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Fourth Feline


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Posted Mon May 14th, 2007 6:20pm Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
First things first. Greetings to everyone here. It's wonderful to be among you.

I have been quite down in my life. And at times suicidal. There are a few people who have made me see the world more clearly. Made me realise that I'm not alone. But when the demons come, there's no lonelier feeling.

Stephen Fry has been a huge inspiration to me. Not only artistically but mentally. I identify with a lot of the same hobbies as him. And I can imagine how he feels at times.

I don't want to whine on for too long so I will basically tell you my RECENT story. Very briefly.

It's been a difficult time for me recently. I was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and Cyclothymia (which is a mild form of Bipolar Disorder type 2)
The damn psychiatrist lied to me. He said I wasn't bipolar in any sense...but then went on to say that I have BPD and cyclothymia. I've just read up on cyclothymia and it's the mild form of bipolar. So why did he tell me that? He also said that I wasn't 'mentally ill' even though both of those disorders are classed as mental illness and are protected in the workplace disability act albeit very recently.
I'm so pissed right now I can't see straight (excuse the pun)!!
I understand he thought that it may have affected my recovery in telling me but....it's just wrong! I'm losing my faith in professionals!


Welcome to the forum Vespertine

I am sorry to hear about your frustrating experience with your current Psychiatrist. It would be presumptuous of me to second guess what his/her motives or train of thought may have been, but as you said to someone else on the forum " you can do without this kind of pressure ".

I also was misdiagnosed for over 30 years, so can empathise with your frustration.

I can only hope that you find some kinship on the forum and equilibrium in your life whilst your healthcare network sorts itself out.

The only ( perhaps insufficient ) consolation I can give, is that my current Psychiatrist and I were at odds for some time - but when I allowed for the fact that he was a fallible human after all and forgave the perceived error, he relaxed enough to admit that he may have acted in haste.

With our mutual defences down, we have since had a very productive professional relationship.

Best wishes for the future,

F.F.

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Vespertine


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Posted Mon May 14th, 2007 7:07pm Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
Thank You F.F.

I realise that he is only human. And I would forgive him for making a mistake in diagnosis. However, he just seems complacent towards me about my condition and that, I'm afraid I cannot forgive.
He's a psychiatrist. He should give as much support as he can. I have never been hostile or cruel towards him. I've acted in a very polite manner and I expected him to do the same. Which he did not.
If he's tired of the profession he should not be in it anymore. Likewise if he has some problems that are interfering with his work life then he should put his job on hold.

That's just my feelings on the subject

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Fourth Feline


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Posted Mon May 14th, 2007 8:26pm Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
Thank You F.F.

I realise that he is only human. And I would forgive him for making a mistake in diagnosis. However, he just seems complacent towards me about my condition and that, I'm afraid I cannot forgive.
He's a psychiatrist. He should give as much support as he can. I have never been hostile or cruel towards him. I've acted in a very polite manner and I expected him to do the same. Which he did not.
If he's tired of the profession he should not be in it anymore. Likewise if he has some problems that are interfering with his work life then he should put his job on hold.

That's just my feelings on the subject

Fair comment. As you say, it's not the initial let down but the ongoing. I did get some mileage out of asking for ( and getting ) a second opinion.

Fortunately my G.P. is a very compassionate and attentive woman who fills a large gap where support, warm sensible advice and observation are concerned. She has also interceded on my behalf sometimes.

Perhaps you may get more joy from finding the hidden treasure ( vocationally driven G.P. ) in your own health centre.

More power to your elbow.

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trouser material


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Posted Tue May 15th, 2007 7:38am Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
First things first. Greetings to everyone here. It's wonderful to be among you.

I have been quite down in my life. And at times suicidal. There are a few people who have made me see the world more clearly. Made me realise that I'm not alone. But when the demons come, there's no lonelier feeling.

Stephen Fry has been a huge inspiration to me. Not only artistically but mentally. I identify with a lot of the same hobbies as him. And I can imagine how he feels at times.

I don't want to whine on for too long so I will basically tell you my RECENT story. Very briefly.

It's been a difficult time for me recently. I was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and Cyclothymia (which is a mild form of Bipolar Disorder type 2)
The damn psychiatrist lied to me. He said I wasn't bipolar in any sense...but then went on to say that I have BPD and cyclothymia. I've just read up on cyclothymia and it's the mild form of bipolar. So why did he tell me that? He also said that I wasn't 'mentally ill' even though both of those disorders are classed as mental illness and are protected in the workplace disability act albeit very recently.
I'm so pissed right now I can't see straight (excuse the pun)!!
I understand he thought that it may have affected my recovery in telling me but....it's just wrong! I'm losing my faith in professionals!

Its frustrating ro constantly read on here how so-called 'professionals' who have, presumably, had years of and training on the subject, deal with their patients so carelessly.

I lost faith in the NHS years ago, so its difficult to see how anyone, other than the stinking rich, will ever get their illnesses, in whatever field they may be, rectified.

Sad days.

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Anonymous


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Posted Tue May 15th, 2007 11:48am Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
I've said a lot on here about the positive sides of the NHS in the UK. There is a lot of generalisation said here about this stuff, whereas when you are unwell it's specifics that count. I'm not saying that there aren't disasters and tragedies , but the overall reality is not that negative picture, i believe.

Chris

ps my cave modifications are coming on very well, i think the builders will only be here anothe week or two, They've just changed all the old wooden aquaducts for shiny new copper piping , it's so cool.....

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Vespertine


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Posted Wed May 16th, 2007 11:23pm Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
I supose you've been very lucky with the NHS then. If you'd been treated how some others have then i don't think you'd be saying the same.


Just my opinon....

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Anonymous


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Posted Wed May 16th, 2007 11:48pm Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
But i have...

I've been desperate to br readmitted to the unit i had been discharged from that morning and been escorted out the door by security people and just left to go home and do it all again...
I've self harmed in the CMHT reception to get a CPN to come and talk to me

and after 24 hours on a drip i've heard a medical doctor turn to the ward nurses annd tell them to get me out of here as soon as thgey can, co i'm a waste of space

I know what the rough end of he NHS mental health service is.

So its been different the last 2 - 21/2 years - the reason was the psychiatrist.

Moral of the story is work with the psychiatrist, don't dismiss them as idiots, cos they are the ONLY people who will treat you. They run the response you get.

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rawlini


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Posted Mon Jun 4th, 2007 11:59am Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
I'd ask the psychiatrist why his dignosis seemed inconsistent and move from there. Perhaps it was just a misunderstanding? If you still feel uncomfortable, you are within your rights to see another doctor, but it's worth having an open dialogue with him first.

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ruthy


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Posted Thu Jul 5th, 2007 10:14pm Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
I'd ask the psychiatrist why his dignosis seemed inconsistent and move from there. Perhaps it was just a misunderstanding? If you still feel uncomfortable, you are within your rights to see another doctor, but it's worth having an open dialogue with him first.
I agree.
It's an unfortunate fact that a lot of professionals get a little too hung up on their expensive training and start to think too much of themselves. Often it's a case of a misunderstanding. If you state clearly your feelings about what he said, he may realise his mistake. If not then it maybe time to ask for a second opinion. Easier said than done in the NHS though as if you're anything like me you've probably had to wait on a list for nearly 12 months to see this one. Hang in there and try to stand up for yourself, (politely if poss.)

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schoona06


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Posted Thu Jul 12th, 2007 4:46am Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!
nearly a year ago i took a massive overdose and was in hdu for 3 days. i had planned it for 2days and was within 10 mins of death.
within 24 hours of waking up i was taken to see a psych and she said i was ok !!!! how the hell in one hour did she even know what i was feeling. since then i have found a gp who although struggles with me some times does try to help.
my parents aare the hardest thing for me they just dont get it, and the usual pull yourslef together or calm down youre being ott is all i get and im 41 !
but still we have each other on here dont we ?

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ruthy


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Posted Thu Jul 12th, 2007 10:28am Post subject: How can I trust these people when they betray me!

my parents aare the hardest thing for me they just dont get it, and the usual pull yourslef together or calm down youre being ott is all i get and im 41 !
but still we have each other on here dont we ?
I know what you mean.
I'm coming to realise that it's those closest to me who trigger my symptoms worst of all. I don't know whether it's me or them most of the time, and as was brought out on one of the other threads recently, it's too convenient to blame my bipolar for everything.
What I have a hard time coming to terms with is realising that it's hard for them too . They don't know how to help you so they default to the neutral position of carrying on regardless, which looks like denial or indifference to us and that hurts and triggers us into a downward spiral. At least that's my theory.
Sorry I can't be of more help but as you say, we can support each other.
Take care

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