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galatea


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Posted Mon Jan 12th, 2009 1:48am Post subject: I'm displeased with the situation as a whole (coll.P*ed off)
Hello there,

I have just registered on this lovely site for a good old moan.

I am from Germany (currently living in Ireland) and therefore the pleasures of the BBC are not for me to watch. I do understand that since the good people in Britain pay for the license they should get to keep the programs and not share with us online spongers and in most cases - eg HIGNFY - I am quite happy for them to keep it for themselves .

BUT there are exceptions, little gems like QI for example rightly belong in the category of productions that no one should be denied access to (I cannot remember having had to pay on my last visit to the National Gallery either. More so, I wasn't denied entry for not residing in London permanently).

If I may be cruel and quote Mr Stephen Fry himself here on that topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz6par9TmRs&feature=channel_page

Well, nearly anyway.

I know that the BBC offers it's programs online as well, but only for the people in the UK and luckily they have very skilled technicans that prevent everyone from cheating through several dodgy proxy workarounds (and believe me, I have tried!).

Yes, I know DVDs are available for everyone, but COME ON! It's hard enough to wait a week till the next epsiode is aired, surely no one can expect us "rest-of-the-world" to wait as long as it takes till the DVD is available? And us fans tend to buy these anyway as well, so why can't we watch it beforehand, too? Where people in Britain conveniently put the kettle on and tune in at the appointed time, the rest of us is forced to operate outside the realms of legality and prowl through the internet in search of pirate websites offering the episodes, meanwhile testing our firewalls to their limits by hopping from one dodgy website to another in search for our weekly fix.

There is one Dutch lady who bravely operates an account on Youtube with Stephen Fry content only, that has been deleted by Youtube twice already. For the 3rd time now she has uploaded all these videos again but she is forced to give each episode fantasy names so as to prevent the cruel Youtube investigators* to find her out too easily (*I'm picturing nasty black-clad and chain smoking ex-financial auditors here with guild scars along their cheeks crouching in front of their haunched PCs with a sadistic glint in their eyes, chuckling with pleasure everytime they find a culprit and get to delete - in a matter of seconds probably - the account and with it all the hard labour the poor soul has put into it with only the good for the fellow humankind in mind). These fantasy names and absence of any QI related tags again is causing great difficulty for us admirers, as we have to descend into blackmarket spheres and rely solely on knowledge acquired through the web based grapevine to lead us on the right path.

Now, I know this is pretty much verbal diarrhoea as the world of copyright is a far too complicated and anal area to expect something beautiful and simple as a Stephen Fry online channel available for everyone to just happen (allthough like with the National Gallery, I am sure people will happily and of their own accord contribute payments to keep it up) but one is allowed to dream.

Speaking of which, I should probably go to bed now. If anyone bothered to read this: Thank you for your time and consideration. And may you live happily ever after!

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PamJH


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Posted Mon Jan 12th, 2009 3:03am Post subject: I'm displeased with the situation as a whole (coll.P*ed off)
You said a mouthful, although my problem is different. Living in the US means I can only get the British shows our public television channels can afford to buy. That means we get many of the detective programs (Miss Marple, Inspector Lynley and the like) and ancient comedy series such "Are you being served?" They would never countenance purchasing something as terrific as "QI" because I'm sure only nerds such as myself would watch it.

I would suck it up and pay for a satellite dish if I thought I could get BBC programming like "QI." I would even pay for a subscription of some kind so I could watch it on my computer every week.

Here's what I think: The company that finally realizes all the money to be made by devising more and better ways to digitally distribute quality programming will make a fortune. I can't even get a fast Internet connection because I live in a rural area unless I want to pay between $50 and $60 per month for it. That's not affordable. I have no idea why Michigan hasn't done something about this.

I certainly understand copyright laws and all that rot, but if the BBC (and a number of American stations, too) want to make some real money, they'll find a way to satisfy people.

Now I'm ranting. I hope you find a way to get "QI." Perhaps the person who's uploading shows to YouTube could have a mailing list containing the magic word for the week. Good luck to you.
Pam

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Inoperante


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Posted Mon Jan 12th, 2009 10:51am Post subject: I'm displeased with the situation as a whole (coll.P*ed off)
As someone brilliantly called it on another thread, the Tube of You really is your friend...

...and you could subscribe to the poster in question on there too.

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shop-bright


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Posted Tue Jan 27th, 2009 8:07pm Post subject: I'm displeased with the situation as a whole (coll.P*ed off)
Get sky tv like everyone else!
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PamJH


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Posted Tue Jan 27th, 2009 10:01pm Post subject: I'm displeased with the situation as a whole (coll.P*ed off)
Get sky tv like everyone else!

What's sky tv? What's that cost? Will I get QI? Will my life change for the better?

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Gayalondiel


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Posted Thu Jan 29th, 2009 12:37pm Post subject: I'm displeased with the situation as a whole (coll.P*ed off)
I cannot remember having had to pay on my last visit to the National Gallery either. More so, I wasn't denied entry for not residing in London permanently.


An interesting analogy, albeit a flawed one - the National Gallery is a charity with some Government subsidies. We don't pay a "Museum Licence" analogous to the TV one!

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galatea


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Posted Fri Jan 30th, 2009 12:24am Post subject: I'm displeased with the situation as a whole (coll.P*ed off)
Yes, yes Gayalondiel: I admit I got carried away in my rant and rather threw my toys out of the pram. Hence I hadn't really thought my arguments through.

I suppose I should be grateful that I got to go into all those lovely museums in London for free (allthough on my second not-so-skint-visit I did donate generously to make up for my sponging off the first time round) and not complain about not getting more.

Instead also I should be writing an angry letter to the German TV stations that I am subjected to through the geographical and cultural coincidence that is my birth and direct my rant at them. After all their definition of creative output seems to revolve solely around copying English and American formats and change the backdrop and titles so as to avoid any copyright claims. Yet the ideas/stories/characters are the same! What angers me most about it is that they're not even good at it! You'd think that without having to trouble themselves with the creative process of it or indeed the fees for using the format they might be able to invest in some decent hosts/actors or a good camera crew, production crew etc. The end product still is only slightly better than teenagers re-enacting their favourite soap and posting it on youtube...

Well, anyway I have moaned enough now. I sound a right miserable, spoiled git.

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