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marzgirl


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Posted Mon Aug 23rd, 2010 10:18pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLJf9qJHR3E

Just heard this song on the radio today. I am sure old to y'all but new to this States girl. I really like it!!!

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
~Martin Luther King Jr.~

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marzgirl


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Posted Tue Aug 31st, 2010 1:31am Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

Damn it has been quiet yall!!!! I hope everyone is well.

Here, I have been dealing with the realization that my son's ODD is not a symptom of his bipolar but a monster all it's own. I am trying to understand how his manipulative and planned out behavior can even really be called a behavior.

I have always been told not to take any of the behavior personally, now I have to. All of the past shit he has pulled on me has been a deliberate plan to push me over the edge and get me to throw my hands up and make him go live with his dad. He admitted this. What in the world have I done so horrible that he would treat me so awful just to get away from me. I do not know.

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
~Martin Luther King Jr.~

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Vampyros


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Posted Sat Sep 4th, 2010 3:05am Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

Sorry to hear that Marz - keep ur chin up.

Been off again - had a down week, too many pressures, money, business life in general.

Looks like I am on the way up again but not sleeping again. Seems like we can never have it all.

The business is getting there but it takes so long to get set up and I need to earn money. Hopefully getting a grant to help, does not help that my benefits have not been sorted yet they owe me money from 15th May.

Take care all,
Amanada Groves

I think my multiple personalities have multiple personalities - makes for quite a party.

"Books and friends should be few but good."

"It is better to be in chains with friends , than to be in a garden with strangers." -Persian Proverb
"Don't be dismayed at goodbyes. A farewell is before you can meet again. And meeting again after a moment or a lifetime is certain for those who are friends." - Richard Bach

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katysara


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Posted Sat Sep 4th, 2010 7:15pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

it has been quiet...

I am an administrator on this site.

"Having a great intellect is no path to being happy."
~ Stephen Fry

See my website: www.katysaraculling.com

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Vampyros


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Posted Sun Sep 5th, 2010 8:17pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

Still a bit quiet where is everybody

Hope you are all doing OK

Vx

I think my multiple personalities have multiple personalities - makes for quite a party.

"Books and friends should be few but good."

"It is better to be in chains with friends , than to be in a garden with strangers." -Persian Proverb
"Don't be dismayed at goodbyes. A farewell is before you can meet again. And meeting again after a moment or a lifetime is certain for those who are friends." - Richard Bach

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greentree


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Posted Sun Sep 5th, 2010 8:32pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

Hello

Am here....just been reading etc. It has been very quiet; maybe it's a summer thing and people are off on holidays etc.

I don't have much to say really...not particularly up or down, just kinda neutral. But have been reading.

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heatherthevet


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Posted Sun Sep 5th, 2010 9:04pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

I'm loitering too. Been utterly mental at work and I'm doing ridiculously long days then being on call all night. It helps my serenity no end. So I haven't been up for much chatting. Also my number was given to somebody without my consent, someone who needs help but not anything I am able to give. It's tragic, but there's nothing I can do. This has not deterred them from phoning me at sociable hours like 6am, not fantastic on a work day when I'm already shattered.

Here's a wee question for you - do you ever get hooked on a particular artist of whatever type and compulsively track down all their work and probably a biography too, and then find that they are very similar to you? I have a repeated pattern of hearing/seeing/reading something, getting obsessed and gathering all the info I can find, and then discover that they are alcoholic/addict and probably manic depressive too. Makes me laugh every time in a wry way (once I'm done crying at the nature of their tragic death)

Had a real down day, so much to do and just frozen, couldn't do any of it. So to cheer myself up I watched a film. Unfortunately I chose La Vie en Rose. By the time I'd watched it I had to go out just in case I accidentely killed myself with a pair of slippers. And to add to the experience, I decided to have a fish supper for tea and the chip shop was shut. England is shit, the 24hr supermarkets shut at 4pm, the chip shops are shut on Sun, you can't eat anywhere on a Sun or Mon night, it's just all round pants.


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marzgirl


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Posted Tue Sep 7th, 2010 5:54pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

I do not know if this will answer your question or not. I have depression/ADHD and my son ADHD/bipolar/ODD.

I have been a true crime buff since at least 8 years of age. My Uncle was a detective on the Ted Bundy case in Florida and I have been hooked ever since.

Well, Ted Bundy's mom suffered from depression. I sometimes obsess over the thought that my son could grow up to be like this. I look up psychiatric diagnosis for serial killers and what they were like as kids. My son does not hurt animals fortunatly. Total opposite. He adores all animals and we used to volunteer at a shelter. He also does not start fires or some of the other odd things serial killers do as kids. Some of the threats me makes towards me cannot help me wonder and worry sometimes though.

I hope the 6am calls stop for you. I suppose being on call you cannot just shut your phone off.

I have been a bit better last few days. My husband is leaving tomorrow for 3 weeks. I hope my mood holds and my husband does not come home to me in the bin.

What are you reading Gt? Anything you would recommend? Right now I am bouncing between 1066 the Bayeux Tapestry and Jo Brand's The more you ignore me. My ADHD brain has to change things up. I am usually reading no less than two books at the time. OH! And I am trying to read one about ODD, but I need a break from that shit.

TTFN XXXXXXX

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
~Martin Luther King Jr.~

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Vampyros


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Posted Tue Sep 7th, 2010 9:20pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

Good to hear from you guys.

My business officially started 6th September 2010

Got my first contract today, just a 1 day job but it's a start. I have joined PeoplePerHour.com and currently bidding for 13 jobs/projects all remote I.e. Home based. So I can work and have time to get to appointments and stay well.

Great site anyone else wanting self-employment should check it out.

My business is on Twitter and facebook just search for Techkit.
Vx

I think my multiple personalities have multiple personalities - makes for quite a party.

"Books and friends should be few but good."

"It is better to be in chains with friends , than to be in a garden with strangers." -Persian Proverb
"Don't be dismayed at goodbyes. A farewell is before you can meet again. And meeting again after a moment or a lifetime is certain for those who are friends." - Richard Bach

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DRL


Member

Posted Thu Sep 9th, 2010 7:55pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

Went to school again a few days ago. Came, Saw, Conquered... Slept!
Still a drag though, but that'll never change. I'm okay for now. I have classmates I get along with well enough, people to sit with during recess and for some reason all my teachers are still charmed by my... well, I don't know why, really. Teachers always take to me. It's a good thing, I suppose. I could use a bit of lenience from time to time. Heh.

Nice to meet you, heathervelvet. I'd say you do have the right to reprimand this person for calling at inconsiderate times. Of course I don't know this person's situation, but, well... sounds like you don't have it all either, which this person would have to consider. Plus, you didn't give her your number. Does she know this? I mean... you're not a "service", you didn't sign up for this and yet you do it. That's an enormous kindness! You deserve some credit there, you know? I'd refer her to someone who does know, preferably an organization so there would be someone happily available at all times. Not that I know any, I'm afraid.

Congrats Vampyrpos! I hope it all goes well for you!

And Marz... I have to say I've wondered about my slightly volatile brother, who's just been diagnosed with ADHD+. Then again, he adores our cat. And it's mutual in a strange way. I don't think your son has the makings of a serial killer, at least not from what you've told. I understand that he takes it in to the extremes sometimes, but serial killer is just about the lowest thing to be. I hope he gives you a break though.

I'd been wondering whether I should respond to your posts all Summer Marz... it's all a bit hypocritical, you see? I'm a terrible child. At least have been, probably still am. But hey, I still mean it.

Something odd happened today, borrowed The Picture Of Dorian Gray from the school library. The teacher immediately combusted into a warning, almost frantically reassuring me that if I were to get bored with it, I should put it down and get another one, that that I should never ever read a book I don't want to... I hadn't read a word of it yet. Is it just me or is that a weird way to promote a book in an era where teenagers don't really read any more? She basically gave me permission to quit it at any time. I like it, anyway. It's a little pretentious, but written in an era when people really were, and about people who could not have been anything else.

Hope everyone's good!


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greentree


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Posted Thu Sep 9th, 2010 8:08pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

That's weird..... the book is good - though there is a slightly gross bit in the middle-ish area, from what I remember. Wonder why she was going on about that book in particular?

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katysara


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Posted Sat Sep 11th, 2010 11:32am Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

glad to see people posting again... forgive me, I am in a depressive episode and so not very chatty. Marz the chances of your son being a psychopath are too small to count. Well done on Techkit V. And well done at school DRL.

hugs,
KSx

I am an administrator on this site.

"Having a great intellect is no path to being happy."
~ Stephen Fry

See my website: www.katysaraculling.com

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marzgirl


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Posted Sun Sep 12th, 2010 4:29am Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

Had a shit day with son yesterday. The day before we had a meeting to discuss his Individualized Education Plan. The genius psychologist thought my son should be in on the meeting. She kept referring to herself as PhD or doctor. I got aggitated and told his teacher after, that this woman's PhD means no more than my AsS if she does not know my kid!! The PhD suggested possible half day for my son, which of course he is all for. When yesterday ended up not being half day he started self harming.

My son was wearing a dog tag type chain and was trying to choke himself and cut himself with the metal end of a pencil. School police came and followed me to the ER. Of course he was not admitted. The doc said he was not going to admit him for bad behavior. Next time I am going to take him to another hospital.

My dad's wife is a social worker and in the process of becoming a certified behavior analyst. I emailed her the drafts of all the paperwork to get her take on things.

Today has been ok. Felt somber though due to 9/11 anniversary. One of those days I will always remember what I was doing, where I was...
My son actually worked on a report due next week. No argueing or anything.

Will keep on keeping on I suppose.

DRL, I think we can both be helped and learn from each others posts. I get to hear things from a younger persons perspective and you can hear things from a parents perspective. If any of the things I describe make sense to you I would certainly love to hear your thoughts.

Hope everyone is doing well!!!
XXXXXXX

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
~Martin Luther King Jr.~

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marzgirl


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Posted Sun Sep 12th, 2010 4:42am Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

KS, car commercial narrated by Michael C Hall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPmYxLUoZVc

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
~Martin Luther King Jr.~

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DRL


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Posted Thu Sep 16th, 2010 8:27pm Post subject: IS IT CLEAR YET?

I've been mulling it over Marz, and I think some of your problems are similar to the ones my parents have and others are not. The nature of my mental illness (that's the first time I've called it that... makes me cringe somehow, is that wrong?) is different from your son's.

I'm not much like your son, really. Life was a cakewalk until I had to go to high school at the age of 13 and I got into trouble because I hadn't been prepared to be different from everyone else, in a bad sense. I've never gotten into much trouble at school (well, not the kind that angers people, if that even makes sense) besides one single case of undeserved detention which I was later exhumed of... I'd been forced to sit with the noisy people who did as they did and drove the teacher mad enough to give everyone in their group of tables detention. I'd said two words in total. My parents have never had to abort their days to come fetch me or face any of the things you have to.

My brother has caused them more of that kind of trouble... he'd gotten involved in a burglary for which he was lifted from his bed at 6 AM and taken to the police station, which sort of traumatized my mother. She'd gotten up to pee and a great beam of light shone into her face, which turned out to be a searchlight used by the cops. She still checks for them whenever she gets up now. My brother got community service and learned nothing that I know of. I don't know much about him, really. I know he has a violent temper and almost anything sets him off, and that he secretly loves me and thinks that anyone who hurts me has no right to live... which I'm fine with. I know he's got a hole in his hand, because the day he gets his salary he gets a luxurious new coat and he's broke the next day and mooches off my parents for the rest of the month. They're afraid of his temper. It's scary. He's thrown things, smashed things, kicked a dent in my mothers car over not being allowed to borrow it, gone through a dozen phones because he keeps breaking them. (I did break one once.)
They've had problems with him since he was 6 years old. They think it's because my parents found out I was handicapped when I was two (and he was 4) and gave me a lot of attention, which is understandable because it changed life as they knew it. He got neglected a little in that period and never recovered. It isn't unheard of, siblings of sick children or otherwise attention-grabbing children that act out to get attention.

He's your treasure trove, Marz. He knows what you'd want to know. He thinks psychiatrists are laughable, however, and would kill me if he knew I'd told you about him. (I'm not even kidding)
I have no insight in his doing what he does whatsoever, but I'd be happy to share my own insights with you for as far as the rails converge.

By all of this I mean to say I'm not sure I'm the one who can help you, and the person who actually can, won't. Unless he has a lobotomy of some kind.


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