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kashka


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Posted Wed Nov 4th, 2009 9:39am Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

Hi sorry but I need more answers, im trying to find out whats BP and whats just me. Is it common not to be able to really stick at anything your trying to do?I have difficulty in setting aims and achieving them.I feel I could have done so much more with my life, but I lose interest and can't stay at anything really. I have done well if you look at my CV, award winning salesperson, however the truth isnt there not really. Yes its true Ive won awards but I have had a cataloug of disasters being made redundant(sacked) numerous times because I just wasnt doing my job properly. Knocking off early starting late(easy to cover up for a while when your out on the road). With my IQ I could have been almost anything I wanted a surgeon or a vet, yet here I am in my forties and still a rep.Not that there is anything wrong with being a rep, but even in my industry I should be in management by now.I think my BP2 is rapid cycling as my mood changes from day to day often a number of times over the day.I have a new psychiatrist who said BP right away. I have yet to discuss the type but i think its pretty obvious. I still keep thinking im normal and need to just pull myself together,mabye Im just over sensitive and need to stop thinking inwardly? but I feel shut off from the world like a foriegn observer.Am I just a work shy lazy prat?I have other periods when I work really really hard.Please be honest even if it hurts.

The dark gift is different for each of us. But one thing is true for us all, we grow stronger as we go along. Just take my word for it.
From Interview with the Vampire

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Mandibles


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Posted Wed Nov 4th, 2009 7:46pm Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

You're not alone Kashka.

I was thrown out of four different colleges due to my bipolar disorder flaring up and causing poor attendance, poor grades.. I only have two Highers to my name, and one HNC.

It's natural to find it difficult to achieve goals whilst you are feeling down or low, and to get incredible nonstop "genius" sprees whilst high. I fluxuate on a fairly regular basis between the two, both equally frustrating, both equally difficult to deal with. Yes, sometimes you will think you are "a work-shy lazy prat" but you clearly aren't. You're just an incredibly smart person who is having to deal with this extra little slice of bitter cake that life has thrown at them.

I think you have to get rid of the word "normal" I've often said to people, if they have to define that word.. how do you define it? Even the most ordinary, healthy, happy person living in a life of luxury with a white picket fence to match cannot claim to be normal. I have the distinct feeling that anyone who claims to be "normal" is usually the furthest thing from it.

Make sure you let your psychiatrist know about how you are feeling, and how it is affecting your work. It is never too late to change your career and your life around. You'll hopefully fine that with a bit of bravery and determination (both of which you have shown by asking for advice here) that you'll soon see the results you crave.

Keep on talking,

Natalie x

Natalie: "Are you finished with your coffee cup Stephen?"
Stephen: "Yes Natalie darling I am, although it's not a coffee cup, it's a teacup..."

*5 minute debate later*

Result: The contents of the cup do not determine the name of the cup. The cup is a cup/mug whether it contains tea/coffee/ribena/hot chocolate or any other beverage.

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Maxx England


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Posted Wed Nov 4th, 2009 7:59pm Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

I'm normal. Honest. And yes, BP does all that stuff to you. Now I know about it, I don't go around feeling guilty about "underachievement". The achievement many of us have is that we're still here and mostly functioning, which won't sound much to anyone outside of our particular box, but I think we're doing OK
thank you.

The future for so many of us is a distant land with no clear path to it; we just aim for the horizon, vague as it is, and see what turns up. I treat it all as an adventure now instead of a thing to be overcome or defeated by.

The only way is forward. Now where's the bar?

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MichelleAbrahmz


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Posted Thu Nov 5th, 2009 12:37am Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

Its definitely BP, you basically wrote my story. To date I have studied: hospitality, business administration, psychology, naturopathy, modern history, fine art, acting/drama, child care, to be a travel agent, to work with people with intellectual disabilities, massage, western herbal medicine, and a few more I can't remember. Of those I completed 3 - hospitality and business admin, only because they were 6 months long and childcare, but again only to an assistant level. I just couldn't bring myself to go any further with that one and the only reason I got that far is because I was working in childcare at the time and felt a "healthy" competition with others also studying.

I also have difficulty because I don't want to start at the beginning. I want to walk into a job and be the boss straight away but whenever I get a job with increased responsibility, I fall apart. I also can't balance my life, so when I am working I obsess about it and I'm there over 12 hours a day and even on weekends.

For me, it was worse because as a teen I had a messiah complex, felt my reason for being here was to heal the world, like a kind of Jesus, Buddha, Mother Theresa mix. I also felt there was only one job I was meant to do and if I didn't find it and do it I would somehow suffer after death, so I kinda froze every time I started studying something - what if this wasn't it? Then I've wasted 3-6 years (or however long) studying something I'm not meant to do.

And now I'm starting my own business. I had my own skincare business a few years ago and it was really successful (thanks to my perfectionist streak), but because of outside influences I ended up spiraling down and had to close it. I've decided to give it another go but this time just take it at my own pace.

So, you aren't alone in this. Its something we all struggle with to one degree or another. My partner is getting fed up with my constantly changing study plans lol, but its not his thing to deal with.

Best of luck


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katysara


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Posted Thu Nov 5th, 2009 5:57pm Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

They said of manic depressives on TSLOTMD

20% excell like Stephen himself
40% work but in jobs below their actual capabilities
20% can't work and live at home
20% kill themselves

So at least you are in the top half. I'm not. All my work is voluntary. My books aren't best sellers. I live at home. If i couldn't bare the thought of the look on my father's face I'd be in the bottom 20%. Maybe that'd increase my book sales?

KSx

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"Having a great intellect is no path to being happy."
~ Stephen Fry

See my website: www.katysaraculling.com

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kashka


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Posted Thu Nov 5th, 2009 6:10pm Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

thank you so much everyone, your words have really helped me , one less thing to feel guilty about. kashka x

The dark gift is different for each of us. But one thing is true for us all, we grow stronger as we go along. Just take my word for it.
From Interview with the Vampire

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Jackyblu


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Posted Sun Nov 8th, 2009 12:49pm Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

Kasha you are not an anomaly. I never finished college. I stayed in the same job for eleven years at Disneyland. I should have been a supervisor but never got my degree. I made it to lead and slacked off so much I was demoted.

I have been ‘let go’ from most jobs I have worked since 2006. I’ve been telling myself it is because I am a ‘cripple’ and on pain medication. You can lie to others and you can definitely lie to yourself.

Honestly I have been sabotaging myself right along. Impulsivity is my creed. I sent a harsh email to a client who owns a string of electronic stores in the US. He was a bit miffed and told our head office that they were pulling our products, My boss wanted to suspend me two weeks but then pay me the lost time as a Christmas bonus. I was concerned that he would be seen as weak before the owners. In effect I fired myself.

I was also let go from a temporary assignment at a new hospital. I was to be the permanent telephone operator but I had a bad habit of teasing the pharmacy director asking him to send any extra Vicodin my way. Apparently I was the only person who was amused. In retrospect perhaps I should have arrested in my tongue.

Those are just two of my stupid and impulsive approaches to employment.

I have wanted to be a ‘paperback writer’ since I was ten. Still do in fact. I have started and stopped writing my opus many times.

I get the most brilliant ideas and start them with good intensions. Along the way I will stop and tell myself, “I really feel tired today. There is a new book I want to read and I don’t feel the muse right now.”

That’s me. I procrastinate. Then I rush and do sloppy work in the remaining day or two left. At that point I become over whelmed by the amount of work left to do and freeze entirely. I have had days with ideas popping out of my head and then abandon them before I get into developing them. These are usually big projects that sound great on paper but I do not have the experience to realistically pull the project off. (How does one-person stage a concert at a large venue and gather sponsors willing to pay for it?)

Again I say, Kasha you are not alone. In my case I think the medications are beginning to help. I hope you can find the answer you’re looking for.

Bless

I have never seen a purple cow...and thank God for that!

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kashka


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Posted Sun Nov 8th, 2009 2:44pm Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

its like reading some parralel dimension versions of my life , so why cant I stop blaming myself. Im so bored with my life yet so unable to change it. Will meds really help?ive also always wanted to write a book , im writing 2 at the moment, but I know no one will want to read them. Katy sara , you say yours arent best sellers but you have succeeded in finishing them let alone the fact that you maneged to get them published.Thats fantastic.Jackyblu your concert? I started on one also when i was younger. I feel so much for you all, i cant believe others out there are going through the same.I really treasure your support all of you.
Kashk x

The dark gift is different for each of us. But one thing is true for us all, we grow stronger as we go along. Just take my word for it.
From Interview with the Vampire

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phymonarg


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Posted Tue Nov 10th, 2009 12:55am Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

I don't know if reading everyone's contributions is making me feel better or worse. That's very strange. Perhaps it's because I've only recently begun to admit my depression to myself.
Thoughts of inadequacy seem to go right back to school days. Can't remember liking any of that time. But always thought that pretty much everything was 'my fault'. To this day I can't see how what is basically an act of violence with a bamboo stick could make a child into a better learner. And not knowing what to do when bullied, another failure/weakness?
Quit school at 16

Kashka the award winning salesperson! Respect is due. You a loser? I don't think so.

I often procrastinate to myself so skillfully to avoid dealing with people or situations that I could probably have made a career out of it. ( Maybe I have )
I'm 56 and have been aware of some hearing loss and tinnitus for at least 15 years now, but putting it down to getting older doesn't help the depressing nature of it.
No long term partner for 23 years, no partner at all for the last 9. I'm sure it's down to my inability to communicate.
I've mostly done manual work. Always was good making stuff since school. There's the 'not communicating' thing again, isn't it? Never even considered going to college. It seemed too much like school, and to be avoided.
I have a house full of 'projects', which I've wasted money on but have never seen them through. Cars that needed fixing, but I just sat indoors over many years/months/weekends instead.
Relationships always end, and even if it's lasts 5/6 years, it's still a failure.
I had a couple of 'counselling' sessions within the last 12 months due to something I did. I suppose I need more, but still want to keep it to myself. Don't want others to have to concern themselves with my crap.
Sorry if I've hijacked your thread Kashka, I'm not going to say any more.
Yes, I know I probably need to talk, but I bloody hate it.

There are some great people posting on here! I could never run a business or write a book. But I'll always consider others before myself, it may be my only good quality.

I think that I shall never see, an elephant in a rhubarb tree. (S Milligan)

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kashka


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Posted Tue Nov 10th, 2009 10:30am Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

HI Phymonarg,
well what can I say? Are you getting any psychiatic help? I know what you said about councilling but thats differnt.
It would seem from the replies that this is just part of the illness.I have also been told that mood stabilisers can help so that you can reclaim your life.I have also tried not to , as you put it"want others to concern themselves with my crap"I even didnt want to take up the samaritans time when I felt suicidal!But talking on here has taught me a lot. Someone taught me on another of my rantings( see cant take much more)that perhaps this is all a lesson in learning not to keep things inside. Its new for me and its working. Im glad you wrote. We all need to talk. The beauty about starting here is people dont have to listen so you arent really bothering anyone. If they listen and want to help then they can. It may also help them.Stop telling yourself what you cant do. You have had relationships ,one that lasted 5 years thats more than some people.You are good with your hands thats great Im hopeless even my mum used to call me pansy potter as I break everything.The best of all is your consideration of others , there really is not enough people in the world like that,there are a number here,allow them to excercise that right with you, please.I remember Eddie Murphy joking"dont look for the perfect person, look for somone as F****d up as you are and you will be happy. We are all messed up in one way or another, so stop beating yourself up.We are all here together.
Kashka x

The dark gift is different for each of us. But one thing is true for us all, we grow stronger as we go along. Just take my word for it.
From Interview with the Vampire

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katysara


Moderator

Posted Tue Nov 10th, 2009 11:21am Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

Hi phymonarg, welcome to the site. Why don't you introduce yourself properly on the introductions thread (somewhere near the top of the forum). It would be good to know more about you. Your post was very sad.

KSx

I am an administrator on this site.

"Having a great intellect is no path to being happy."
~ Stephen Fry

See my website: www.katysaraculling.com

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tito


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Posted Tue Nov 10th, 2009 1:02pm Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

Hello phymonarg,

the point you made about reading peoples posts I think applies to a lot of us.

When I'm feeling very low I can struggle to read anything here and tend only to post a little and stay away.

When I'm most ill I go off onto the rest of the forum and write silly things.

Maybe it's the bipolar denial thing? I don't know.

But welcome anyway. You'll get a lot from the forum I'm sure xxxx


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phymonarg


Member

Posted Tue Nov 10th, 2009 6:34pm Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

Haha! I like the Eddie Murphy quote.
One of my cats is called Eddy. He's mad as a brush and half as intelligent.
I thought I may have intro'ed myself when I joined the site last year. I was not in the mood for mucho posting, and, as recently mentioned, didn't want to clog the pipes here with my crap and guilt and general malarkey. Though I did sign up out of my enthusiasm for Mr S Fry's barking appreciation of the surreal side of life, and the fact that I empathize with his gentle ways. The young whippersnapper!
But I have a terrible memory and can't find how to view my old posts.

Thanks so much for the welcomes anyhoo everyone. Doh! Where's the 'heart' or kissing, smiley?

Food upps the spirits somewhat.
Huge baked potato with cheese on top and baked beans! And a cuppa! And here comes Eddy, because he can smell the cheese and butter. Pig dog cat!

Pete x

I think that I shall never see, an elephant in a rhubarb tree. (S Milligan)

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kashka


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Posted Wed Nov 11th, 2009 9:22am Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

I thought you were a bloke when I read the comfort food otherwise it woud have been Chocolate, Ice cream and coca cola!.Glad your spirits are up ,its the one good thing about BP whenever theres a down theres always an up!Glad you liked the Eddie Murphy quote.
Kashka xx

The dark gift is different for each of us. But one thing is true for us all, we grow stronger as we go along. Just take my word for it.
From Interview with the Vampire

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kashka


Member

Posted Wed Nov 11th, 2009 9:30am Post subject: is this common or am I just a loser?

Hi sorry folks something else. It seems the not being able to see things through is another symptom however no one has said anything about the feeling of being an observer in this world , not really part of it? is this just me or is this the illness?
Kashka

The dark gift is different for each of us. But one thing is true for us all, we grow stronger as we go along. Just take my word for it.
From Interview with the Vampire

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