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panda


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Posted Mon Feb 12th, 2007 12:20pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
Hi everyone
I have bipolar and one of the ways i keep myself healthy and balanced is through nutritional supplements (also counselling, MDF self-management and medication). Just wondered if anyone had ever heard of Neways - or had any experience of them? I really like the Biocare brand, but am interested to hear if anyone knows anything about Neways.
Thank you!
Panda

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meekychuppet


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Posted Mon Feb 12th, 2007 2:43pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
Medium Density Fibreboard? That's a new one on me.

Nutrition keeps me sane. I am a vegetarian

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panda


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Posted Mon Feb 12th, 2007 3:40pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
hello meeky chuppet!
mdf is the manic depression fellowship! they run self-management courses (very oversubscribed) for people with bipolar. its been one of the things that has helped. But nutrition is the first and most important thing, i think, that helped. do you take supplements, or just eat good food?

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MaryD


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Posted Mon Feb 12th, 2007 5:30pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
Hi, panda!

I hadn't heard of neways, but I do know a good bit about good nutrition & natural products, so I put the name into Google and assessed them for toiletries, nutritional supplements & cleaning products.

Toiletries: I'm not impressed with their hair and body care products; too many problematic chemicals are still in them, such as parabens.

Nutritional Supplements: The formulations aren't bad (though I've seen much better), but they are very expensive. The EFA Recovery Plus is £41.13 for just one month's worth! Echinacea Formula is £26.32 for about 1 month's worth!

Cleaning Products: I don't like these. They make no mention of having completely plant-based/natural ingredients. The laundry liquid contains an optical brightener which is not good. I use Ecover which is much better. Also, for general household cleaning, vinegar and baking soda work great & cost very little! For dusting just use a slightly damp cloth (preferably a light color so it doesn't leave any residue on wooden furniture!)

Hope this helps!

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panda


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Posted Mon Feb 12th, 2007 5:53pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
Hello Mary
Really good to hear from you! I feel lucky to know someone who can work these things out - I did go to their website but couldn't make head or tail of it! Am very interested to hear what you think, and I will pass it on to my mum. I think it is an Avon-type scheme (they call it multi-layered marketing). My mum was sceptical and so took me along for my opinion. I said that while I thought it was great that a business was around to promote nutritional supplements, etc., I said i wasn't convinced that they would be better than what i was already taking (Biocare, Viridian and Higher Nature - who i think are great). So it looks like my instinct was right!

I just thought it was worth checking out in case they were good and it would save money. But obviously I'd rather have the most effective supplements, and it sounds like they aren't any cheaper anyway. I did wonder if the science was a bit woolly at Neways.

I think probably the only way I am going to make it work more financially is to try and "eat smarter" so that the food i eat also contains some of the nutrients I want from my supplements. Not that I will then buy less supplements, as I think I need them, and more if anything. But hopefully it will make me the healthiest i can be, so more productive and eventually earn a bit more at work.

A bit disgusted to hear they use parabans in their cosmetics - they obviously aren't interested in being natural at all!!

Also, I wonder why their formulations are so expensive. Apparently the company has made a lot of money. Perhaps they just sell to people who don't know what else is available???

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MaryD


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Posted Mon Feb 12th, 2007 6:07pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
I suspect that they get their prices down by offering discounts if you become a distributor, or if you sign up to a certain package, etc. My mom is involved in a similar multi-level marketing company in America, but they aren't completely natural either (named Arbonne). Unless you'd save a lot of money through some incentives they offer, I wouldn't use their nutritional products. As for their cleaning products and toiletries, I would NEVER use them no matter how cheap - not good for you!!

Did you get my private message reply?

Talk to you later!

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meekychuppet


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Posted Mon Feb 12th, 2007 6:39pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
hello meeky chuppet!
mdf is the manic depression fellowship! they run self-management courses (very oversubscribed) for people with bipolar. its been one of the things that has helped. But nutrition is the first and most important thing, i think, that helped. do you take supplements, or just eat good food?

I take no drugs of any sort. I refuse meds and I do not self medicate either.

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panda


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Posted Mon Feb 12th, 2007 6:45pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
Hi Mary
Yes, I think that's exactly how it works. It becomes cheap for you (and possibly you make money) if you get other people to buy, i.e. become a distributor. Kind of a weird idea, its a way of getting people to work for them. Also, strange because I have - very vaguely - thought of working for one of the nutritional companies, Biocare, Virdian, Higher Nature, or somewhere like Neal's Yard just so that I could get discounts on the products (if they were products that i was going to buy anyway). Unfortunately, the kind of work I do doesn't really fit with that. But its ironic that i was kind of thinking of that anyway. But it would only be if i really liked the company, there would be no point working for a company who i didn't really like their products anyway! Hmm...
Thank you, I did get your private message... just thought I'd reply publicly in case anyone else was interested...
Still drinking my echinea tea - yum! (though still can't spell it - whoops!)

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MaryD


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Posted Tue Feb 13th, 2007 10:54am Post subject: Neways Nutrition
I like Higher Nature a lot. They have a lot of good advice and seem to sell quality products. Though their take on progesterone cream is a bit too all-embracing; in other words, it doesn't always help people as much as they say, as some people (like me) need the deeper causes of hormonal imbalance addressed, without which the cream only has limited success in curing the symptoms.

You could always consider learning more about nutrition & whatever else is required and then working for a good company like Higher Nature... you do have a natural love of good nutrition & natural health.

I'm drinking Yogi echinacea tea at the moment... I have a cold, but they never seem to get very bad when I drink the Yogi tea! The US version of the tea (same company) is even better in taste and ingredients... I may see how much it would cost to buy some in! Post & Packing from the States can be surprisingly reasonable if you order in small quantities (like 2 bottles of Krill Oil), which I have to do anyway to stay within the UK customs limit of £18! I find quite a few US supplements are cheaper than products of comparable quality here, even when you include the P&P charges! (It helps that the pound is twice the value of the dollar!)

I had a brief check on Viridian; I hadn't heard of them before. I'm surprised they don't sell fish oil in their Essential Fatty Acids section. Prehaps they believe in selling only vegetarian products. But then you miss out on the best essential fatty acids for the brain. It's great they try to be organic & give to charities. They don't give the prices for the products, though!

I think if you eat high-quality, organic (as much as possible) food with the right ratio of meats, fats, and carbs that makes you feel good, then you probably won't need lots of extra supplements in the long run. Eating right helps your body heal. Also avoiding chemicals & toxins in toiletries & cleaning products. And exercising regularly (something I need to do!!). Omega-3 supplementation is almost always necessary, though, unless you eat lots of fatty fish (which isn't advisable because of mercury levels), because you can't get the EPAs and DHAs from other foods. And if you have any digestive problems (like bloating after meals or constipation) or have had any antibiotics, then a good probiotic (NOT the ones in the sugary drinks!!) is essential.

Anyways, you're doing great!! Keep at it! Bye for now!

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MaryD


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Posted Tue Feb 13th, 2007 11:00am Post subject: Neways Nutrition
P.S. Have you ever checked out http://www.mercola.com/ ? Dr. Mercola has so much good information - I trust him a lot. He's where I learned about Krill Oil! It'd be really worth your while to have a peek! You can search for any subject, symptom, etc., in the Google search box at the top which searches through all his thousands of articles. He's sort of my doctor right now as I can find no one to really help me here!

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panda


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Posted Wed Feb 14th, 2007 3:04pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
Hi Mary
Thanks for all the ideas! I might think about getting supplements from America, if it works out cheaper. Can I ask which brands you think are good - which ones do you use? Particularly for Krill oil, which brand is good? I try and keep my Omega 3 (from Biocare) in the fridge - and they sell it from the fridge in Fresh and Wild. Does Krill oil need the same i wonder?
I'm going to see if i can find the book you recommend by Paul Chek (how to eat, move and be healthy) from the library. Sounds like i could learn a lot. I'm actually reading lots of novels at the moment, as they help me switch off and wind down after work, and so help me to sleep.
I will look at the mercola website. I could definitely do with a good doctor! Don't have one at the moment. I have looked at the website before, but couldn't work out where i supposed to look - but will try again with the search words and articles.
I will definitely keep educating myself in nutrition, etc. but think it's mainly going to be for myself for a while. I currently work in art publishing, on editorial. So its nice, if not that well paid! (sometimes wish i had been thinking a bit more about finance when choosing my degree and career path!!!!) I have applied for a few jobs in editorial publishing, outside the art history field, but i think they probably have so many people with specialist knowledge in the subject. But maybe one day. I will certainly keep my eyes out for things anyway.
I really like the Chill formulation from Higher Nature - i find it quite sedating, so only use it when i really need it. But its useful to have a natural sedative that is quite powerful. I now need to work out one for depression. I've always been hesitant about St Johns Wort, partly because it contravenes (whatever the word is) the pill, and also because its said to induce mania in bp sufferers. But maybe it would be worth taking for a short period of time and then stopping. As some bp sufferers are recommended to do with antidepressants. (obviously it would have to be carefully monitored).
Sorry for the long post!
Panda

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MaryD


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Posted Thu Feb 15th, 2007 6:23pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
Panda,

Could you remind me of the supplements that you are taking? I may be able to help you reduce your costs.

Neptune Bioresources' Antarctic Krill Oil is the best brand for krill oil. I believe it can only be gotten from the States. http://www.betterhealthinternational.com does the best prices I've seen on it and you can order up to 2 bottles at a time (more will incur customs charges as there is a £18 customs limit), with $5.25 P&P (about £3).

If you ever want to buy it, you can get Paul Chek's book on http://www.amazon.co.uk for £11.46. Here's the link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Eat-Move-Be-Healthy/dp.....mp;s=books

Yes, books are great to wind down!!

I only use the search function on Mercola - it's the best way to find out information. I also look through the newsletters he sends as there is often good, up-to-date information in those too.

I've heard mixed info about St. Johns Wort. Remember people are biologically different so some herbs can work really well for some and not for others. I tried it with no effect. A friend of mine tried it and felt it made her depression actually worse. Krill Oil has been the single best thing in beating my depression - it is much stronger than fish oil so you may find it works better for you. I began to notice a difference in 3 days and the effects just keep gradually getting better. You can start out with 2 capsules a day for a month then try dropping down to 1 a day. I had to keep on 2 for about 5 months (it builds gradually in your body). Now I think I can go down to 1 a day. We'll see how it goes!

Great to chat to you! Better be off to do dinner!

Have a great evening!
Mary

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panda


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Posted Fri Feb 16th, 2007 4:28pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
Hi Mary
I think maybe I should try the Neptune Antarctic Krill oil. It looks as though it is a lot cheaper than my Biocare Omega 3 that i take at the moment. And if it is more effective then that's even better. I had a look on the website you suggested and found Neptune Krill Oil 500 mg 60 softgels Your Price $20.89. I'm assuming that is the right one? (I can't see any mention of Bioresources). Am slightly nervous of ordering something from a website, as I've never done it before! Is this the one you use?

Ok, so this is what I am currently taking:

Daytime:
Biocare Adult multivitamin and minerals x1
Biocare B complex x1
Biocare vitamin C 500 x2
Biocare Zinc Citrate x1
Biocare Mega EPA 1000 x2

Nightime:
Higher nature Chill x2
Biocare Magnesium Calcium 2:1 x2-3
Viridian Valerian x2-3

Occasionally take Kalms.

A couple of my friends (and my mum) swear by liquid vitamins. They sound good, but I think they are more expensive.

What do you take? I'd be interested to know, to compare notes, see if there's anything i should be taking! (although i know that each person is different.)
Re: Higher Nature, I have tried some other things by them, such as Connect and Mood. I haven't really found them effective, though it could be because I haven't taken them regularly enough (as you have to take them between meals, i usually forget).

Books: maybe I should start a thread for people to post which books they find calming and enjoyable...

Best wishes
Panda

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Anonymous


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Posted Fri Feb 16th, 2007 6:45pm Post subject: Neways Nutrition
I say vitamins,exercise WORK,REST.PLAY.Healthy interests and atitudes.Pills hat do all that havent been invented yet!

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panda


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Posted Mon Feb 19th, 2007 11:37am Post subject: Neways Nutrition
Hi Harry
I wholeheartedly agree with that!! And its what I try to do. Out of interest, what do you find are healthy interests?
Panda

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