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Anonymous


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 6:47pm Post subject: on not drinking
i'm not a teeto...teetottle..teetotaler. but i've decided i should stop drinking for awhile. my experiences with it lately have been strange, different than the way things used to be.

this is tough, because everyone i know drinks socially. plus, i like going with others to drinks because sometimes it's the only way i can put them in the same delirious mood i am in.

i was just wondering if anyone else here has needed to do this, or had thier experiences with alcohol change, or, anything you want to add alcohol related?

just don't add a really good recipe for a drink or i will have to punch you in the eye.

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katysara


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 7:25pm Post subject: on not drinking
I had to stop drinking alcohol when I went on to Lofepramine (antidepressant) because it made me really ill. That was when I was an undergraduate and so I really missed out on some of the usual Uni drinking. I was still on it when I started my PhD and saw in the millennium sans alcohol. People kept buying me vodka and orange when I had to stick to orange. It was hard.

Fortunately I came off Lofepramine in the 2nd year of my PhD and started drinking again. There are some great pubs and bars in Oxford - Like the Duke of Cambridge that does the BEST cocktails. But I am responsible about it. Most of the time. I probably shouldn't drink at all on the amount of meds I am on, nearly every meds label says 'avoid alcohol' but I don't see the harm in having a little and my GP agrees.

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SidewalkProphet


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 8:13pm Post subject: on not drinking
I've never drunk alcohol, never really got the taste for it, my brother always says it will effect my social life as ppl wont want to hang out with someone who doesn't drink! As if I can't have any fun without alcohol! I've never found this to be true, maybe it's because I've never been the social butterfly he is but as drinkers (albeit formal) would you not want to hang with someone who didn't drink?

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Saturn


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 9:27pm Post subject: on not drinking
I very rarely drink maybe a few times a year.

Drinking makes me even more depressed than I am already, unless its in a social setting and that is very rare, but even then I am one of those people who turns into a blubbering wreck when I've had a few telling everyone around all your woes and just not holding anything back.

I know once I start I can't stop and I drink dangerous levels and the temptation to do something drastic is too easy.

During a really bad patch last year I drunk a whole bottle of whiskey in and wanted to go for a walk on the railway tracks. I think the only reason I didn't was because I was actually so drunk I passed out.

Drink & Depression - bad, bad, bad combination in my case

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Vespertine


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 9:33pm Post subject: on not drinking
I'm terrible with alcohol. I'm the type of person who buys a tallboy at 10am in the morning X-D

Except I never get legless. Just nicely drunk

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katysara


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 9:47pm Post subject: on not drinking
Yeah Saturn makes a very important point. I may drink but I never have more than 1-2 units a day because if I drink more I start looking for somewhere tall to jump from. Depression and alcohol are a dangerous mix, both short and long term. Short term = immediate risk of something stupid, long term = risk to health and of course of worsening depression.

SidewalkProphet don't worry about it affecting your social life. People are quite happy to be around someone who is not drinking as long as they are not stopped from drinking themselves. In fact, it can be quite funny to be the only sober one.

KSx

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tracy8673


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 9:53pm Post subject: on not drinking
Hhmmm - the last time I had a drink was when I was having my last episode - I really didn't want to go out at all, but it was my friend's birthday and felt obliged. So I drank to try and make myself feel better, but ended up blubbing and making a tit of myself :-// Luckily I was with some great friends but I felt so bad.

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Anonymous


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 10:45pm Post subject: on not drinking
saturn what you're talking about is exactly my problem! it happens even when i think everything is going well.

i think i will drink one and i drink three in a short amount of time, and then either think ghosts are talking to me or i start looking for household chemicals to overdose on. i also recently screwed up at my ex-girlfiriends party and now she isn't speaking to me. (that's how i started on the forum...every minute after that was so long)

i've done the whole bottle of whiskey thing. fortunately i'm not a mean drunk, i kept making jokes all night. what my friends don't know is i was really hoping to kill myself or obliterate myself off the planet with it.

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Saturn


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 11:01pm Post subject: on not drinking
In the right circumstances I can be a really fun drunk, funny and great laugh but when you're downing a bottle of whiskey, alone in winter, in the park trying to obliterate yourself completely it's quite different.

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Anonymous


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 11:09pm Post subject: on not drinking
yeah that is tough. i feel for you there and i'm glad you haven't been drinking so much right now.

sometimes i feel like that on the inside, even when i am making jokes.
and then no one believes or understands how i really feel.

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SidewalkProphet


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 11:21pm Post subject: on not drinking
I do feel its a big relief for my dad that I don't drink or take drugs (altho I will admit to messing around as a kid with soft drugs [not recommended]) I'd hate to think of what I mighta vhe become if drink had been an outlet for me. My mother was an alcoholic altho it was never something we saw when we were growing up.

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Inducible


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Posted Mon Sep 10th, 2007 11:50pm Post subject: on not drinking
I probably shouldn't drink at all on the amount of meds I am on, nearly every meds label says 'avoid alcohol' but I don't see the harm in having a little and my GP agrees.


There's a difference between the 'avoid alcohol' meds, and the ones where mixing them with alcohol is dangerous. Kinda like the "avoid grapefruit juice" meds Vs and the "this is a MAOI. Do not eat cheese! Abide by all of the dietry rules." You can get away with the odd drink of grapefruit juice with certain meds, but would be an idiot to eat cheese (and such) on MAOIs.

Not a dirrect comment at you, but too many times I see people complaining their meds aren't working / had adverse reactions when doing something they were told not to do.

Normal people + alcohol = Stupid things can happen
Crazy people + alcohol = Stupid mental things can happen

But the odd drink here and there if done in moderation and responsibly (not hitting the booze after a bad day, not mixing it with meds you shouldn't be) I'm guessing can't be all that bad.

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CEPalmer


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Posted Tue Sep 11th, 2007 5:08am Post subject: on not drinking
Oh dear it seems that you are all so good....

I had to go leave the booze for 13 weeks a good number of years ago when I was taking Prozac and did so 90% faithfully.

Unfortunately I am one of those dreaded people who really loves their tipples. In fact I'd go so far as to say that drinking is one of my favourite passtimes!

This has in the past caused me problems if paired with my hypomania. I once kicked my best friend's door down when he (like a good friend) refused to relinquish my car keys after a heavy drinking session.

The same day (this was a particularily manic period for me mind) I had got into a fight with someone in an off licence for absolutely no good reason.

I have also tried to drive to Holland before whilst totally plastered. Fortunately my sense of direction also failed me that night along with most of my other faculties.

Oh yes, I have also driven from a casino in central London to Sussex with a parking ticket fixed firmly to the centre of my windscreen all the way. I passed three police cars on the way. I am so ashamed of some of these times that when I think back on them it can physically hurt me. Indeed, after breaking my friend's door in I travelled to the Strand in London and stared at the traffic there for an unusually long time....

Although on the other hand I have had some wonderful times with the stuff. It allows me to be myself in a group. I know this sounds like a cliche but then all cliches/generalisations have some basis in the truth. In fact, I'll let you in on a little secret... I've drunk 1 bottle of wine, 5 pints and two glasses of armagnac tonight. I've been with people for the vast majority of the time and the fact is I love it. I love booze.

It is similar to the way I love to smoke. Smoking has been a faithful friend to me through thicka and thin for many years. I know it is not good for me but I truly beleive that if I had not had the fags (sorry my american chums) to rely on then I would have done something silly by now, without a doubt.

Booze loves me and I love booze. I could not envisage my future without it neither would I want to. Also, I find it can help settle me down if I can't sleep. Perhaps not what the doctor would recommend but hey, we all get through life in our own way.

I suppose that considering the title of this topic is "on not drinking," this has not been a particularly helpful post. To tell the truth I posted this half for the benefit of balance in the post and half to exorcise some demons of my own regarding the subject. Hey, I don't want to encourage anyone else to overdo it in this regard. I suppose it's just another of my many self destructive vices. Boo hoo.... :'(

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whattocallmyself


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Posted Tue Sep 11th, 2007 7:18am Post subject: on not drinking
I very rarely drink maybe a few times a year.

Drinking makes me even more depressed than I am already,
I know once I start I can't stop and I drink dangerous levels and the temptation to do something drastic is too easy.

During a really bad patch last year I drunk a whole bottle of whiskey in and wanted to go for a walk on the railway tracks. I think the only reason I didn't was because I was actually so drunk I passed out.

Drink & Depression - bad, bad, bad combination in my case


I agree ( i shortened it, but I agree.)
I´m bad with alkohol. When I was younger I developed this tingy that made me able to drink a large amount before passing out, like a liter of vodka plus 8-10 beers. But now I can only get like 2 shots of alcohol and four beers before being a drunk arse!
And if that happens, I make a fool of myself, crying or doing strange and dangerous things, become slightly manic or barf all night long..
After that, I have 2 days of hangover..
So no, I dont drink that much!

Onwards and Upwards!

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panda


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Posted Tue Sep 11th, 2007 9:22am Post subject: on not drinking
i've stopped drinking, probably about a year or so ago. best decision i ever made. i still go out with people who drink, they don't mind i'm pretty lively anyway. someone said people getting drunk is one way of getting them on my level i agree with this!

it took about a year to give up. and i really don't miss it. i had some great times, but it is not worth all the extra damage to my moods. i have enough trouble without hangovers etc. it is so great not having a hangover!!!!

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