STEPHEN FRY

You've made three different threads for the same thing. Some might regard this as spamming...

Hi Lisa, Not a very kind remark by Nitro,us girls are not as brilliant technically - manuals for electronic toys are usually written by MEN for MEN, (sorry Stephen, I know you have married your ipad) they can read like the dead sea scrolls to us!

Remember, they can't have babies - though some men try to take over even that process. Many moons ago (1981 actually) I had my first son and allegedly developed puerpural psychosis, I suffered real anguish when I had to leave my long awaited first baby in the maternity unit while I was shipped to the nearest psych unit. to be sobered up. I was manic and felt my son was very special to the world, I was heavily sedated and had to stop breastfeeding - adding to the guilt and subsequent depression. I had exactly the same experience with my second son - racing thoughts and grandiose delusions again sobered up and suffering subsequent depression and the stigma of mental illness. I turned things around and helped Prof. Ian Brockington with his research, I think he was the first to establish a mother and baby unit in Birmingham, I also joined the Post Natal Illness Association and helped to counsel a local mum.

Of course I support you Lisa and have voted for your group. I just wanted to warn you that I subsequently suffered three further manic episodes when under extreme stress, with the same stigma. I shall be writing to Sara further about these events as there is a need for privacy. There, I managed to get here, not bad for a pensioner! I should mention my husband was very supportive but rather bewildered by the events as only a MAN could be. It's the hormones again! We must have done something right as it's our 33rd anniversary in September! Sorry to drivel on Stephen, you are looking very handsome lately btw.

Best wishes, Sue.