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Johnharris


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Posted Thu Jan 3rd, 2013 11:49pm Post subject: QI downunder and Stephen insults Aborigines

QI screens months late in Australia but I still watch it avidly. I am an Aboriginal person and I was hurt when Stephen said an Australian Aboriginal person had described an eclipse of the sun as 'kerosine lamp belong Jesus him buggerup'. Not only is that a cheap and ignorant parody on Pacific Island pidgin languages which no Aborigines speak, it is also part of 200+ years of joking about how dumb and primitive we First Australians are. It was a low jibe and not worthy of you Stephen.


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bonnie896


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Posted Mon Jan 7th, 2013 6:05am Post subject: QI downunder and Stephen insults Aborigines

I think you need to look at this from a comical point of view.
I agree it may offend but on this tv show (which I also love and Australian) they have a fun habit of ripping off all cultures and nationalities.
try to not take it to heart so much.


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Lora


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Posted Wed Jan 16th, 2013 3:32am Post subject: QI downunder and Stephen insults Aborigines

Oh, yes, I liked ripping off the Ukrainian culture to name their children Neubiymebatko which means "Don't kill me father". That was fun! And no one asked why, is it really in Ukrainian culture to kill their children? This name does NOT exist anymore, it should be noticed, what a fault, but Stephen was right. From 1923 to 1933 during man-made famine in Ukraine called the Holodomor (which apparently is compared to Holocaust) and millions of Ukrainians was dying of starvation, the newborn child in a peasant family would mean a new mouth to feed. And a "batko" (father) most likely would decide to kill a child if it was obvious that the child would probably starve to death anyway. Quite a good reason to mock! Well done, why not to mock people suffered other forms of Genocide next time? They also have probably done some "funny" things to safe their lives and their children.


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aranelthemithra


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Posted Thu Jan 17th, 2013 3:11am Post subject: QI downunder and Stephen insults Aborigines

Humour is often used by those who are fairly well informed to make points and educate.

Eddie Izzard is certainly not shy about attempting to open up the eyes of his audience through pretty rough subjects being portrayed through a humourous lens.

The aboriginal comment was at worst a tired old standby of an entertainer, and that all races have been the target or the butt of many jokes. I would take such things as they are intended, a way to get a quick chuckle without meaning any harm.

If a comedian puts a fairly serious topic in a joke or a humourous anecdote, I would assume they are using their medium to shine light on the topic rather than to belittle.

However, you can't please all the people all of the time, and I am sure that infuriates Stephen to no end.


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purplejumper


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Posted Fri Jan 18th, 2013 7:36pm Post subject: QI downunder and Stephen insults Aborigines

Oh no ! I am absoloutley certain that this show is not in any way meant to offend! It just isn't! I'm glad I am not working out what can and can't be said on this quiz. I'd be devestated continuously if i offended somebody. So easy to get thing a bit wrong or upset someone. It's hard to know absolutely everything all the time and take full responsibility and whack if it isn't well received. i don't believe for a minute that the intention would be one of malice. It's not on the nature of the quiz, or the participants who take part.

PJ

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WannaBeLinguist


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Posted Thu Jan 24th, 2013 8:42pm Post subject: QI downunder and Stephen insults Aborigines

After looking at this topic for a little bit, I think I finally have something to say about it.

To the original poster, I'm sorry that what Mr. Fry said offended you. Coming from a country and even an area where there are still racial tensions and stereotypes, I understand why you would feel that way. I am certain, though, he meant no harm by it.

To be fair to Mr. Fry, I am sure he was just referring to a particular incident and, as aranelthemithra was suggesting, trying to point out that this is a certain racist attitude that may still persist in certain areas of Australia. Or, he found said incident amusing and believed that the viewers would find it amusing too. So, what does one do when they hear a joke they like? They share it with others sometimes without the awareness that it could offend someone in their audience.

Now, if he made a blanket statement claiming that all Aboriginals believe that way, then there might be a slight problem because he just alienated a huge demographic of viewers and rubbed salt in what is still a relatively fresh wound for those viewers.

Personally, I don't find it funny just because I don't completely understand it (then again, I'm American and not especially bright so a lot of foreign humor evades me). That's all I have to say about that, off to class!

That is an excellent question-- I don't know.

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tamarillojohn


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Posted Wed Jun 26th, 2013 12:15pm Post subject: QI downunder and Stephen insults Aborigines

Since I always find I'm running out of time to get things done in life, even if someone does make a joke about my race, that upsets me, I simply can't afford the time to be that over sensitive anymore lol.

I believe Cheetahs to be the speed police of the animal world and that if antelopes, were bright enough to pull over and stop when chased, they might not get eaten.

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cmr


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Posted Sat Jun 29th, 2013 5:26pm Post subject: QI downunder and Stephen insults Aborigines

It seems to me, (but of course I may be wrong), that if someone, anyone, makes a remark about a person or culture, you have the choice of being offended or not being offended. I've found the best approach is to not laugh and ignore jokes that are not funny to me....like YOUR MOMMA'S SOOOOO FAT>>>>>>>I just hate those!

As you slide down the banister of life hope all the splinters face the right direction...Be who you are for the ones that matter don't mind and the ones who mind don't matter.

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