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Fry_fan


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Posted Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 5:42pm Post subject: seretonin
hey,

Ive been on this forum for only alittle while and well I thought if i could I might be able to share a big reason why I like stephen fry...

When I was about 10 i was diagnosed with a condition where I dont have enough seretonin in my brain.
From the age of like 5 I suffered servely with mood swings, When I was happy i was really outgoing and performed very very well (international level) in martial ats...but when I was upset or angry my god I was bad... I used to kick, scream, punch, insult, run away, damage things and even went to far as to go through my familys photos and cut me out of all of them..
I was horrid to my family, and since it was and is only my father and my sister I took all my anger out on them.

after years of dishing abuse to the ones I loved, my father finally pursuaded me to go to the doctors (i felt so bad after I had come down frm my rage , but i just didnt want to admit i had a problem... and I was little and scared)
Anyway, I was diagnosed with this condition and for now 7 years this june (i will be 17) I have been on medication, everyday of my life I have been taking fluvoxamine tablets. At first the doctor suscribed 3 tablets a day (3 times the amount of an adult dose) and now I am on 1 tablet a day.

I have tried to come off the tablets and have suffered severe side effects and mood swings...

I still get depressed sometimes and have contemplated suicide at least half a dozen times.. I am telling you this not to seek attention or sympathy but to maybe speak out and find others like me.

maybe in a later post, if anyone has something similar to be we can talk about what it feels like to have an "episode"

I know I dont have manic depression nor bi-polar but What I have been though I saw in Mr fry when I was watching his documentary of manic depression..

Dani

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meekychuppet


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Posted Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 6:27pm Post subject: seretonin
I am pretty sure you don't have a Serotonin deficiency since there is no such thing. I would guess you mean you have a problem with Serotonin re-uptake.

This combined with the fact you don't know that Manic Depression is the same as Bipolar Disorder makes me suspect you're a troll.

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Fry_fan


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Posted Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 6:56pm Post subject: seretonin
hey,

first of all, why are you calling me names when you dont know me??
Iknow that manic depression and bi-polar disorder are the same thing I said them both because I am unsure about which name you guys use..

second of all, Im 17 i dont know what the hell goes on in my brain and I dont pretend to be an expert. I know i have a problem and frankly I hate the fact that I depend on pills to keep me from hurting the ones I love. I was only trying to express my feelings and see if I can meet anyone with similar problems so i can talk to them.

By your reaction to my post, I really dont think Im the troll.
Im still not legally an adult and I have the sense and decentcy not to call anyone I dont know the first thing about names.

Dani

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melampus


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 6:35am Post subject: seretonin
Whoa, take it easy, meeky. What you wrote was really unnecessary and uncalled-for. Be cool -- we're all in this together.

Fry_fan, I wish you all the best. It takes courage to admit you have an issue; more courage to seek help. If you have any questions about your treatment, ask your doctor. If she/he can't answer your questions, go to another doctor!

Also, don't trust everything you read on the Internet. If you are reading up about your situation, make sure the website is 'reputable'.

I really hope things settle down for you soon.


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meekychuppet


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 9:43am Post subject: seretonin
hey,

first of all, why are you calling me names when you dont know me??
Iknow that manic depression and bi-polar disorder are the same thing I said them both because I am unsure about which name you guys use..

second of all, Im 17 i dont know what the hell goes on in my brain and I dont pretend to be an expert. I know i have a problem and frankly I hate the fact that I depend on pills to keep me from hurting the ones I love. I was only trying to express my feelings and see if I can meet anyone with similar problems so i can talk to them.

By your reaction to my post, I really dont think Im the troll.
Im still not legally an adult and I have the sense and decentcy not to call anyone I dont know the first thing about names.

Dani

OK, a few things.

1. "Troll" refers to someone who takes the piss on a website forum for fun. It is a technincal term, not an insult.

2. As smoeone with a mental illness you should know that people queue up to take the piss. As a result I have developed a highly accurate bullshit detector and I am afraid your post doesn't read as being very authentic. Don't take it personally dude - I hammer everyone I know this hard. Experience has taught me to do so. You guys will get used to it soon.

If you have a problem with Serotonin re-uptake then that indicates depression, not MD.

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Maniac


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 12:48pm Post subject: seretonin
Can I subtly say that when in a position where you are effected by depression or mood disorders - often a post on a website can really bring you down.
I'm not having a go at anyone but sometimes we don't always put ourselves across well due to the confines of the medium and when others seem to attack us it can have serious effects.

So, friends, yeah?

I actually wanted to make a point but now can't remember what the hell it was!!

Yes, I can.

You can't be diagnosed with a problem with serotonin re-uptake can you?
So this poster could be MD/Bipolar but have more depression than manic phases.
They could be bipolar II and not have more than say 1 manic episode - that in itself being comparatively mild - and have a lot of depressive episodes.

Please do not take this as an attack, Meeky. I have respect for you as a poster and am not after a fight.
I just try to see both sides.

Oh, and by the way, if you are not a troll, being called one is indeed an insult.

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JVONEARTH


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 1:34pm Post subject: seretonin
I think we should get back to the fact we are here to help each other not to argue or take the piss.
Although symptoms are similar they are not the same as we are all individuals.
I'd rather try to help someone out if they have full blown bipolar or they are just a bit pissed off.
We are born, we learn, we live, and then we die what we achieve in between makes us what we are.
If you have a problem or are worried post it you may recieve help or advice or just a comment but don't dwell on it.
If i could have shared my problems with people who suffer with what i have i would be better off now.
Also these are words on a screen with no emotion so what may sound harsh might not be as bad as it looks.

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Maniac


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 1:44pm Post subject: seretonin
I think that's kind of the point I was trying to make.

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JVONEARTH


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 2:34pm Post subject: seretonin
Thank you.
The things i post sometimes get read the wrong way and i try to not to offend anyone.

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meekychuppet


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 4:07pm Post subject: seretonin
I think we should get back to the fact we are here to help each other not to argue or take the piss.
Although symptoms are similar they are not the same as we are all individuals.
I'd rather try to help someone out if they have full blown bipolar or they are just a bit pissed off.


I find piss taking extremely helpful and cathartic.

Serotonin re-uptake is something which can be under or over active in mental illness but it is a symptom, not a disease.

Also all of you should note the fact that I posted a suspicion of troll-ness, not an accusation.

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Fry_fan


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 4:08pm Post subject: seretonin
hey,

sorry everyone for my last post.. it was a bit mean.

Depsite what people "may" think im not a troll.. I really have this problem. My mother has it too.

Im not sure how my doctor in australia diagnosed it (My home is there but I live in the UK) he made me wear a heart rate monitor for like a week. he said that my heart rate when i was asleep was what it should be while I was awake, and when I was awake I was off the chart! im not sure what that has to do with seretonin levels but yeah that is what he said.

I have looked up seretonin on the net and also the tablets I have to take daily, fluvoxamine. It doesnt sound too good I have to say and to be honest Im kind of scared about how long i will have to be on them.

When i dont take them i have dizzy spells, I feel really sick , my vision goes sort of (hard to explain this) but when I look at something different my eyes are not fluent it feels like it "skips" and I get really angry. When i get angry I have this hot sort of feeling that comes in my head and no matter when anyone says I just yell. I cant stand to be around anyone when i am feeling like that.

I sort of new what Mr Fry meant in his doco when he said he heard not voices, but his voice telling him things.. I used to (when I was quite little) think that everyone thought I was useless and that I did not deserve to be here. I thought my family loved my sister way more then what they loved me and I just wanted to crawl into a hole and never come out.

I aso had and have a major thing with my body. When i was smaller I used to look at myself in the shower and hated what I saw, i thought (and sometimes still think) that Im fat, I used to go nuts with physical training and never eat. I know this can be just growing up and everything but I was sort of weird in my thinking... (I have to note that I was never anorexic but I have tried once or twice making myself sick.. this hurt my tonque for some reason and I hated it)

I am now alot better with my body issues, although i dont put anything bad for you in my mouth and I still like to exercise, I keep myself busy with school..
I am a normal and healthy weight to.

I dont know all the symptoms of manic depression and as I said before Im pretty sure I dont have this condition, but I still have some things in common i think to people that have it.. I just wanted to talk to some people that might have it or that have what I have, i have never talked to someone (I dont see my mother) that has it.

I hope all of you believe what im saying, I want to be friends with you all and learn more about what i have and maybe other ways i can cope with it.

Dani

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JVONEARTH


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 4:23pm Post subject: seretonin
Dani.
There is NOT a problem ok read my post it was an encouragment to you.
If you have a problem post it Don't bottle it up ok.
Many people have a email address if you want to say something or your not sure of something email it to someone.
There are people who want to help if they can .
You take care
John

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Fry_fan


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 4:39pm Post subject: seretonin
thanks, it means alot

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blacksquirrel


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Posted Sun Mar 4th, 2007 6:29pm Post subject: seretonin
Dani, don't worry, you are among friends, odd friends but friends nevertheless.

If you want to talk, then talk. I' m new here too and have spent most of my life fretting about what to say and when to say it, and as a result haven't said anything... so talk.

I have read your postings a couple of times, and whilst i'm sure your doctor in Oz knows his stuff, i think its always worthwhile getting a second opinion, especially since you have so many question marks about what are symptoms of depression, MD and indeed confusing this with growing pains and body image worries. I'm certainly not poo-pooing anything you've said, but things change so quickly for me that sometimes its difficult to differentiate between what is MD and what are normal 'uncertain' thoughts....
I think its worthwhile having a chat with a professional just in case you have been given a misdiagnosis. Its brave stuff, be brave, be bold! Good luck. x

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vicof


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Posted Thu Mar 8th, 2007 7:54pm Post subject: seretonin
Dani, I've suffered with BiPolar since puberty and I'm now 33. I was diagnosed only 18 months ago and since then I have had difficulty deciding what is really me and what feelings and emotions stem from my BP although I am pleased to have a reason for my 'strange and uncontrollable' behaviour and some accompanying medication. I now see a therapist once a week just to talk about things and although she is not a BP specialist I have found it very useful. Maybe that is something to consider?

(by the way I didn't know what a troll was either - in Sweden where my family is from they are little chaps that live under the house!)

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