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LilyG


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Posted Mon Feb 11th, 2008 1:19am Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
Hey there!

I've been taking Sodium for over a month now, (my psych has put me on a 3 month trial) and I was wondering if there are others out there who can relate to my symptoms.

At the moment I am on 700mg a day. I used to on 1000mg. So it's two pills a day. These two little pills, in the space of one month, have caused:

Nausea, (although that went away after the fisrt couple of weeks)
Dizziness
Drowsiness
Forgetfulness
Restlessness
Weight gain, (so far about 5kg)

The two worst for me so far have been the weight gain, for obvious reasons, and the drowsiness/restlessness, because they happen at the same time. I will be very, very tired, but unable to get to sleep...well, at night anyway.

During the day I could sleep until the cows come home.

I also feel hungry ALL THE TIME! Is this normal? Obviously I have asked my GP these questions before, but GP's can be a bit offhandish sometimes, I've found, and just say, "oh yes, that's very normal, to be expected," and then get on with things again.

So.

Any similar experiences with this drug? And has anyone out there gone from Sodium to an other equivalent?

Ta guys.

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Pete


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Posted Mon Feb 11th, 2008 2:22am Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
Hi Lily
Hope all is well.
I started on these (SV) about 6 months or so ago. 500mg/ Day. Very low doseage for my build and weight apparently.
I do find one of the side effects that I experience is deafness. Kind of like taking off in a plane, but unfortunately it doesn’t stop, and I do loose a fair amount of my hearing. I have confirmed this by carefully coming off these completely, and my hearing returned within a few days or so, but my moods then started to waver. When I get low I feel very insecure, and was feeling this again.
As far as weight gain. Apparently it's a common side effect. I had already stacked on the Kgs previously and although I didn’t really find that I put anymore on, I am dieting hard and the weight loss is taking longer than it used to when I dieted. But that might be my age creeping up on me... Grrrrr
I do find that with the SV, getting up in the morning takes longer also. I feel woolly headed and sluggish.
I am off to see the Dr in about a weeks time, and am going to discuss this with him, and I'll post what he says here.
Anyway, take care,
oxo
Pete

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LilyG


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Posted Mon Feb 11th, 2008 2:40am Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
oh, what you said about the deafness, that actually happens to me too! and now that i think on it, it only really became a problem once i got on the SV.

i also started on 500mg, the i went to 1000, but that made me very ill so now i'm on 700mg. i have to go to my doctor once every one or two weeks for blood tests.

but thankyou for ponting out the deadness, i'll deaf-inately (get it ) bring that up with him next time.

xx

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Pete


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Posted Mon Feb 11th, 2008 2:52am Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers


but thankyou for ponting out the deadness, i'll deaf-inately (get it ) bring that up with him next time.

xx
Your one step ahead of me Lily X-D

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LilyG


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Posted Mon Feb 11th, 2008 3:41am Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
ew but i didnt mean to say 'thankyou for pointing out the deadness'.

that just makes it sound stupid.

damn 'D' being so close to 'F' on the keyboard.



also, for anyone else reading this thread, it is well worth going back and reading some older threads with the same contention. i just read this one:

http://www.stephenfry.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27.....p;start=15

and it's really helpful.

x

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WhyGenTom


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Posted Tue Feb 12th, 2008 2:21am Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
I know this is kind of off-topic but I was wondering how you've felt since taking the mood stabelisers. I've tried fighting on without meds and I'm finding the depression unbarable at times (although to a lesser extent since my anxiety has been subdued).

Outside of a serious manic/depressive episode are the mood stabelisers worth the sacrifice of the joyeous flip-side and the other side effects you've mentioned?

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thesecretlifeofamanicdepressive


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Posted Tue Feb 12th, 2008 2:28am Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
The nausea and stuff does pass. It takes a while but it does.

What helps, I find, it actually taking the meds with food. It helps your appetite too.

Side effects I have while taking it (I do now) are some weird funky hair changes, weight gain and sickness, but the sickness has been alleviated with taking the depakote with food.

Good luck.

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Fourth Feline


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Posted Tue Feb 12th, 2008 12:44pm Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
1 ) Depakote:

At first, dry/ flaky / itchy skin ( especially late at night ) - alleviated by a nightly hot bath to flush out the waste products of Depakote from the blood vesels under the skin.

Also dandruff in first few months , made better by supplementing with Zinc /Selenium

Heavy legs when trying to run or cycle.

Weight gain.

All symptoms diminished in varying degrees as time passed and the dosage came down. My maintenance dose is far less than the initial therapeutic dose. Depakote now being discontinued, as Seroquel has replaced the need.

2 ) Seroquel

Very sedating. Have to take all at night, as daytime dose knocked me out for hours on end. I get the munchies about an hour after each dose hence more weight gain.

Weight gain from both the above has leveled out though. I look 'normal' to other people who have gained similar weight without medication.

3 ) Olanzepine

Short time on this drug to calm me down at the outset. Sedation, weight gain.


3) Lithium
Not for me this one - nausea, shaking, confusion, sweating.

My 'Route' was Lithium > Olanzepine > Depakote > Depakote + Seroquel > Seroquel.

Ongoing.

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thesecretlifeofamanicdepressive


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Posted Tue Feb 12th, 2008 6:15pm Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
Similar to mine.

Mine was (since 16, but only diagnosed at 21)

Carbamazepine > Olanzapine > Haloperidol > Lorazepam > Lithium > Seroquel, Depakote, Paroxetine, and Seroxat > Depakote and Risperidone

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LilyG


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Posted Tue Feb 12th, 2008 10:37pm Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
Similar to mine.

Mine was (since 16, but only diagnosed at 21)

Carbamazepine > Olanzapine > Haloperidol > Lorazepam > Lithium > Seroquel, Depakote, Paroxetine, and Seroxat > Depakote and Risperidone

ick, haldol, had that, no thanks!

so far (ive only been on meds for a little time) Haloperidol > Sodium Valproate.

short history lol.

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Telepresent


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Posted Thu Feb 14th, 2008 11:19pm Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
Hey Lily,

I can't really add to what has been said, and we're on different meds, but I'd just like to say: stick with it. At least for a month. I hear too much about people who give up after a few days because of the side effects...

The day I started taking Citalopram I went into work to tell my boss I had a prescription and might have some odd side effects (this was my day off)... then threw up. Luckily I managed to get to the toilet - but it made sure she took it seriously. I'm not saying throw up in front of your boss, just that early on there can be extreme side-effects.

I had massive mood swings when I started meds. I went from suicidal (which was my 'starting position'), to on-top-of-the-world, to being king of the sexy people, to having so much energy I couldn't stay still and was LITERALLY (and I don't use that word in vain) running and jumping through my house just to lose the energy...

BUT, since these few odd side-effects, which were perfectly managable, my life has become so much better. So much. If you can't see a way forward, it's surely worth trying every option available to you? One of those is meds

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LilyG


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Posted Fri Feb 15th, 2008 12:20am Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
Thanks heaps guys, it's much appreciated.

I have definitely decided to stick with the meds for the entire three months, my doctor is making sure of it. Now all I need is to find a good psychiastrist and i might just be ok.

(At the moment I cannot afford anything, and I am unemployed and over 16 so I have no healthcare benefits :(, so I am at the mercy of drop in centers for my psychiarty )

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Fourth Feline


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Posted Fri Feb 15th, 2008 11:52am Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
Thanks heaps guys, it's much appreciated.

I have definitely decided to stick with the meds for the entire three months, my doctor is making sure of it. Now all I need is to find a good psychiastrist and i might just be ok.

(At the moment I cannot afford anything, and I am unemployed and over 16 so I have no healthcare benefits :(, so I am at the mercy of drop in centers for my psychiarty )


It seems unfortunate that you cannot be given free (or heavily subsidised access ) to a prescribing psychiatrist. One would think that the importance of getting things 'contained' whilst you are still young would be of the first priority for the health services.

I get concerned when folks in any country ( including ours ) have to get their psychiatric assessment and resulting meds from a Doctor who's knowledge base is by it's very nature 'general' . That said, I know there are some great doctors that work closely with / learn from the local psychiatric specialists - and I hope that is what you are benefiting from.

I think your attitude is great though, I can imagine you are the sort of person that would quest, research and sculpt her destiny through the often winding paths of mental health care provision.

I therefore have nothing tangible to add, other than I admire your positive attitude - perhaps the greatest ally any of us can have, outside of good medication.

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philj2007


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Posted Fri Feb 15th, 2008 11:16pm Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
Been taking SV for six weeks now.

What you say about the nausea is SO true. But the side effect that I didn't know about was the deafness,

Have had major problems with that. My hearing has been shot to pieces.

Thank god, I turn 40 this year and thought it was purely down to old age... LOL.

Glad to find out its just the meds and not some form of age destroying scenario.

LMFAO.

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Fourth Feline


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Posted Sat Feb 16th, 2008 12:18pm Post subject: Side Effects of Sodium Valproate and Other Mood Stabilizers
Been taking SV for six weeks now.

What you say about the nausea is SO true. But the side effect that I didn't know about was the deafness,

Have had major problems with that. My hearing has been shot to pieces.

Thank god, I turn 40 this year and thought it was purely down to old age... LOL.

Glad to find out its just the meds and not some form of age destroying scenario.

LMFAO.

I know where you are coming from on the later Phil. I have developed a really poor concentration this last few years and thought it was a middle age demise. When the consultant told me the demise in my mental acuity was a mix of the BPII condition and meds - I was just happy that it was not the 'ravages' of middle age.

" For we are young at heart " ...

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