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Helene88

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Posted Thu Jan 27th, 2011 10:12am Post subject: the difference between music then and music now
I like to take long walks to get air, exercise and space to breath and think. Often, I bring along Stephen and his numerous podcasts or other publications on my walks. I can't remember exactly in what context he made this comment, but somewhen, Stephen was asked what he thought the difference was between music from the older days and music of today. I can't remember the exact answer, but his idea was that what it really boiled down to was dancing. I'm paraphrasing here, but what I remember him saying was that older classical music was wonderful to just sit quietly and listen to whilst modern music is annoyingly urging people to dance.
I thought about the subject and has concluded that I think the ultimate difference between the music now and the music then is not the way you listen to it, but rather the reason why you would either sit and listen to it, or dance to it. It is the way it conveys it's message.
Before, when music was often played without accompanying vocals the only way of expressing a message through the music was to let the music speak to the audience and this was done by make people feel the music. Today, the music that is produced often has two parts, melody and vocals. I think we've gone away from expressing emotions through the melody because most artists express themselves through the lyrics and let the melody be some empty danceable background noise that people can jump around to in the clubs.
Having said that, I would still make the claim that there are still some bands that produce music that speaks to the heart and not just to our dancing reflexes. Personally, I like to sit down and relax to Vamp, which is a Norwegian band. They have amazing music. "Våken drøm" and "Tir N'a Noir" can be found on youtube and are worth a listen
- Helene
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Roxy641

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Posted Wed Feb 2nd, 2011 4:23pm Post subject: the difference between music then and music now
I think the problem is with saying music was better before, rather than now is that there is always good music around. What I find is I just have to search harder for it then I've ever done before. (And I enjoy listening to many different types of music).
Roxy641
"Life is too important to be taken seriously". OSCAR WILDE.
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Nitro

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Posted Fri Feb 4th, 2011 4:15am Post subject: the difference between music then and music now
I don't know why he would say that. 'Dancing music' has been around a long damn time. In fact a type of 'court music' ( ref Louis XIV ) produced 'ballet' as we know it. Not to mention indigenous music since we learned to pull animal skin over things and make rythms to..ta da...dance to.
For me, a lot of the difference is how musicians and making music is perceived. Especially pre-recording times. Face it: most of the people who experienced 'classical' music, or court music, were of a certain class ( bred into wealth ). You know..how many kids then had posters of ANY musician(s) taped to their walls?
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Ambrosia

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Posted Fri Feb 4th, 2011 8:05am Post subject: the difference between music then and music now
"There are only two kinds of music - good and the other kind." That quote's been attributed to various people, but I heard it was Duke Ellington who said it. Whatever kind of music it is, from whatever era, and whether people just listen to it or dance to it, that phrase holds true for me. Good music stands the test of time and people don't tire of listening to it. Bad music gets on your nerves and you can't forget it fast enough.
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amyl_nitrate

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Posted Fri Aug 12th, 2011 2:27pm Post subject: the difference between music then and music now
Technically Stephen Fry was quoting a film when he said that. I can't remember the film, just that it was a film with a scene in an American high school where students were asked the different between Madonna and Beethoven. The first student said one was bad and the other good. The second said you can't dance to Beethoven. Though I do agree with Nitro's point about there being music for dancing going a long way back and that it's not just a recent phenomenon. Nothing wrong with music that makes you want to dance. Sometimes you can just sit back and listen to the music that normally you'd dance to. It's not all repetitive and annoying.

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