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RATZGobbler

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Posted Mon Feb 22nd, 2010 9:45pm Post subject: The Insane Exchange
Today, in my English class and we were watching Kenneth Branagh's interpretation of Hamlet, we were just going to swim through Act 4, scenes 1-5, and I had been proud of the fact that I was able to mouth to the soliloquy due to some memorization on the part of curiosity. But then when we came into scene 5, when Ophelia had finally gone off the deep end as a result of her father's, Polonius', death, and she made her insane exchange. The majority of the class started laughing at her without any consideration along with when she was being hosed, at all. I mean, what do they think madness is? When they see the joker putting on an act they don't laugh, so is it that they have more sympathy for a cold blooded murderer than for a young woman who's been used, bruised and abused and just couldn't take the trauma? I don't want to seem like the kind of person who despises someone that can't help but giggle at the word "ho" or "bosom" but I am someone who burns up inside when such a lack of compassion is shown en masse. When I finally read and examined Hamlet I was awestruck by the sheer accuracy of Shakespeare's report on the adolescent mind and how it truly can be translated as madness. Now I find myself asking you of what would you feel if a good friend of yours was being laughed when going through a moment of lunacy?
Ignorance is Bliss in the way that Violence is intelligible.
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tito

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Posted Tue Feb 23rd, 2010 1:43pm Post subject: The Insane Exchange
It's been a long time since I was in school, but I know what you're talking about here.
A lot of the time when young people act like this it can be front though. Just immaturity and wanting to belong.
Some of them will indeed spend their lives as insensitive twats, I don't doubt that. But a lot more will grow up just fine. And may even be embarrassed by their behaviour now.
But, I do understand your frustration. That kind of behaviour used to horrify me.
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AnCBeck

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Posted Wed Feb 24th, 2010 1:23am Post subject: The Insane Exchange
Anytime I've read or watched Ophelia after her father's death, I found it anything but funny. Heartbreaking, really.
When I was younger, I remember people laughing at words like "bosom," but it stopped by high school (granted, I did go to an all-girls high school).
And no, I wouldn't want people laughing at me or anyone I knew who was having a "moment of lunacy," as you say. But some people, no matter how old they are, are immature enough to find other people's suffering funny, or will latch onto one thing that could be taken as funny in another context and laugh at it. Hopefully your classmates will grow out of it.
"Ordinary riches can be stolen, real riches cannot. In your soul are infinitely precious things that cannot be taken from you." -Oscar Wilde
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RATZGobbler

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Posted Thu Feb 25th, 2010 3:15am Post subject: The Insane Exchange
You see, I keep forgetting about that. The event of maturity does give me hope, and hope is always a good thing for one person at least, but they're failing to see the point at a time in there lives which this tragedy is mainly about. And I like the belief of them maturing at some point but seeing them acting the way they do and not seeing any hindrance in it, I mean even some of our teachers act like the student, unimaginative and apathetic, which begs another question, for myself to answer, does the environment my own generation lives in now help with maturity?
Again, I apologize for being a downer, it's been racking around my brain since my freshman year, that's not a lie.
Ignorance is Bliss in the way that Violence is intelligible.
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AnCBeck

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Posted Thu Feb 25th, 2010 4:38am Post subject: The Insane Exchange
No need to apologize. It can extremely upsetting to see people indifferent to or amused by things by tragic or serious things that just aren't funny. I am in my early 20s and more than halfway through college, and I still run into the kind of people you're talking about. I find it troubling, too. Unfortunately, we do live in a society that encourages not taking a lot of things seriously. I mean, the occasional dark joke is fine and can sometimes help people cope, but when people are constantly making a mockery of things that are not funny, it really does become a problem. Honestly, I'm glad to know that there's another young person out there who finds this frustrating.
"Ordinary riches can be stolen, real riches cannot. In your soul are infinitely precious things that cannot be taken from you." -Oscar Wilde
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crystalize

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Posted Thu Feb 25th, 2010 12:27pm Post subject: The Insane Exchange
Hi
Regarding the question, 'does the environment my own generation lives in now, help with maturity?' Depends what kind of environment you were born into doesn't it?
Plenty of kids born into poverty stricken or War-torn areas probably have little choice but to quickly reach a level of maturity way beyond their years. But regardless of poverty or affluence, i think it's always going to come down to a mix of nature and nurture that produces maturity.
Imature kids in todays technological society definately have way more opportunity to do psychological damage to others than they did in days gone by.
I'm really happy to come accross maturity in people of any age these days!
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RATZGobbler

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Posted Fri Feb 26th, 2010 6:00am Post subject: The Insane Exchange
Actually I consider myself to have had an easy life so far, in the way that I really didn't carry much weight on my back for family income, but I was born in the working class and now am up to upper middle. I was usually the only kid without a gameboy or whatever the fad was back then. But I feel it may be part of the fact that there wasn't routine involved in my childhood and I was allowed to just watch and listen to good, old fashion cartoon network, never really understood what most of the shows said but I just absorbed and actually developed an above average vocabulary by the sixth grade. The rest of the kids were signed on to after school programs, not that I have anything against these programs, and they just didn't achieve the imagination I had. This may sound like bragging as well as off topic but rest assured I'm not and this is leading to somewhere. I think that in my free time of watching all those shows lead me, and I'm sure many others, to thinking along more dimensions of personally while those that had their lives scheduled o the last second had no opportunity to absorb and gain the same process, and it was the lack of that which prevented the insight into Ophelia's condition. I hope this wasn't too self superiorating, is that a word? Spell check says no, lack of a better word changes that to yes.
Ignorance is Bliss in the way that Violence is intelligible.
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Nitro

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Posted Fri Feb 26th, 2010 4:20pm Post subject: The Insane Exchange
The real moral of the story is to never trust spell check lol
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